From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 19 11:16:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D4A1065676 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F648FC1F for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2JBFRIX016281; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:15:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:16:04 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20080319.051604.63052713.imp@bsdimp.com> To: bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20080318085804.I50685@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> References: <3860.1205764623@critter.freebsd.dk> <20080318085804.I50685@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: arch@freebsd.org, phk@phk.freebsd.dk Subject: Re: Power-Mgt X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:16:57 -0000 In message: <20080318085804.I50685@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> "Bjoern A. Zeeb" writes: : what actually happens to an unrecognized card or a card with no driver : loaded currently? How much power does an unsued card use and can we do : anything about that? Are we perhaps already doing something about : that? For PCI it is set into D3 state. Or at least was until this caused a problem with some raid controllers that didn't follow the rules and had extra devices that the card used, but that the OS didn't have a driver for. For PC Card, the card is powered down entirely. For CardBus I think the same. For USB, ugen takes it, and therefore it is powered up. Warner