From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 13 01:39:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F697106566B; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixmania@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com (mail-fx0-f224.google.com [209.85.220.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402508FC14; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:38:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unixmania@gmail.com) Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so1623405fxm.43 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:38:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zj7kjRt6yTExypg2AYTfAcnyWOHGR2oH5Egbceaukz4=; b=OGndbzug2TNHLhl9q9XN8z6teEz7Oki2AcxODXNVrCyEezlUCnMzwAE34lQ3jlkSLC 8OShIM/Dn6Xj06ZeACaxXNtj/kaRQC2RYOIaV1Ifer+PgCeZtWA2l9RWONFqW1+dfvfR YuhE+xZ1ULBlvpZDZiJNVmoEg6DQNHou2Dk8E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=duxXkq22EHcvL507hPwHiUc+uZFLNCDKx5pZAWdnW90/aDTA5owLg0zaaHPmawI8hR JY2wpPvWZ0iLdf+RAOMfQGt7qFJafl8DTIqQ9W5B/J7bGwkv8iFSJqov9zgOr1wPqnVL XfDgmhkfKgek0BYLGvzGzfjj8fUfl9/CxHDew= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.168.6 with SMTP id i6mr377581hbe.25.1247447378182; Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:09:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A56FC7C.8060107@samsco.org> References: <37131.1247214217@critter.freebsd.dk> <4A56FC7C.8060107@samsco.org> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:09:38 -0300 Message-ID: From: "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" To: Scott Long Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, Poul-Henning Kamp , src-committers@freebsd.org, Scott Long , svn-src-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r195534 - in head: etc/mtree include lib/libcam sbin/camcontrol share/man/man4 sys/cam sys/cam/ata sys/cam/scsi sys/conf sys/dev/advansys sys/dev/ahci sys/dev/aic7xxx sys/dev/amd sys/de... X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:39:00 -0000 On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Scott Long wrote: > Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> >> In message <200907100818.n6A8I8p1011853@svn.freebsd.org>, Scott Long >> writes: >> >>> ATA drives are accessed via 'ada' device nodes. >> >> It there a particular good reason why we insist on making this >> silly mistake every five years ? >> >> I am pretty sure you were around when Justin won friends by renaming >> the SCSI disk devices ? > > 1. I clearly stated that the name is experimental and that a change in > the future is possible. Well, from a user's perspective, if CD/DVD drives are to be seen as 'cdX', then it would make sense that hard disks were seen as daX, as already advertised by cam(4). > 2. If the name does change, and if it changes to either 'ad' or 'da', it > can't happen until the newbus stuff is done first. I desperately need > help with that, btw, starting with removing the need for Giant from > newbus. Contact myself and/or Warner for details. > > 3. Exposing driver name details as the primary handle for users is > something that I disagree with, and I'd ultimately like to see every > direct-access block device in the system be called 'disk'. Or "phk". > Or "bde" for all I care =-) > > 4. While feelings may have been hurt 12 years ago, life did, in fact, go > on. > > Scott