From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 28 17:27:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE28716A403 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:27:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4AB44DF6 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:27:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [172.23.170.139] (helo=anti-virus01-10) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Fvdoa-0006gZ-0O; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:27:00 +0100 Received: from [82.41.34.175] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FvdoY-0007hs-CS; Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:26:58 +0100 Message-ID: <44A2BBE1.9030406@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:26:57 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060515 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" References: <20060620060845.U1114@ganymede.hub.org> <20060628132222.Q1114@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060628132222.Q1114@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Francisco Reyes Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:27:09 -0000 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Francisco Reyes wrote: > >> Marc G. Fournier writes: >> >>> So, my question above, and a public call to -core, or anyone else: >>> What can we, as a community, due to improve this situation? >> >> >> How about buying from vendors that specifically support FreeBSD. >> http://freebsdsystems.com >> http://ixsystems.com >> >> and surely others. > > > In my case, it comes down to two words: remote administration ... HP > is the only system I've yet found that has it integrated as part of > the hardware ... Well, Dell do have a DRAC which at least allows remote console independent of OS - also remote CD/floppy so you can install BSD from 300 miles away (as long as you have a windows(!) machine with a CD/floppy locally). Of course, their "OpenManage" software isn't, it's closed and only works on Linux/Windows. --Alex