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Date:      Wed, 30 Jan 2002 02:18:00 -0800
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.freebsd.org>, Dallas De Atley <deatley@apple.com>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: __P macro question
Message-ID:  <3C57C858.5FCC9453@mindspring.com>
References:  <21280.1012384756@critter.freebsd.dk>

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Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> No, but if we phrase it like this:
> 
> People who want to use source code from FreeBSD on other systems
> or in other contexts than FreeBSD will have to do whatever it
> takes to do that.  It is not FreeBSD's objective to stay
> diff(1) or even cc(1) compatible with every oddball platform
> in the world.

You mean "portable to", not "compatible with".

<SARCASM>
If the intent is no longer to act as a reference implementation
for various code, then perhaps we should reconsider and release
all of FreeBSD under the GPL, so it will be even more useless
as a use-agnostic reference implementation.
</SARCASM>


> >PS: "Terry's set of problems" includes being able to diff
> >FreeBSD code and NetBSD and OpenBSD code, as well as being
> >able to diff new FreeBSD code against old FreeBSD code, and
> >get something other than 400MB of cosmetic changes to header
> >files and function prototypes.
> 
> More able hackers use scripts to deal with that problem.

More able hackers use scripts to remove "offensive" things
like "__P()" or even the contents of "#ifdef ALPHA" or other
noop code for the platform they are using, rather than
rendering the base code non-protable to all but their pet
machines.


> Another useful method is keeping a "baseline patch" around which
> contains already looked over diffs and apply that in reverse before
> diff'ing.

Won't work in the context of back-porting from an unstable
-current to a -stable a necessary patch, when you don't
want to have to drink the "kernel interrupt threads" and
other instability causing koolaid.


> Finally you would have more time to read your 400MB of diffs if
> you didn't wast so much time filling hot air into emails.

Thanks for your concern, but I read very quickly.  My concern
was more general than for just myself.

-- Terry

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