From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 13 02:43:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C6F1065673 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:43:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaduk@mit.edu) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu (DMZ-MAILSEC-SCANNER-1.MIT.EDU [18.9.25.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3228B8FC0A for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:43:08 +0000 (UTC) X-AuditID: 1209190c-b7f806d0000008d6-07-4ebf2ebc74c6 Received: from mailhub-auth-1.mit.edu ( [18.9.21.35]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-1.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 25.B0.02262.CBE2FBE4; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:43:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-1.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id pAD2h8Wd032397; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:43:08 -0500 Received: from multics.mit.edu (MULTICS.MIT.EDU [18.187.1.73]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id pAD2h6se003783 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:43:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kaduk@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.12.9.20060308) id pAD2h65I008363; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:43:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:43:05 -0500 (EST) From: Benjamin Kaduk To: Manolis Kiagias In-Reply-To: <4EBE0D56.8010902@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20111111221914.GA17468@chaos.ukrhub.net> <4EBE0D56.8010902@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (GSO 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-285068882-1321152185=:882" X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmphleLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IR4hRV1t2jt9/PYMFyQYtTZ7pYLVbdncXq wOQx49N8Fo+ds+6yBzBFcdmkpOZklqUW6dslcGUsb/3MWtAuXHHkzEnmBsYW/i5GTg4JAROJ h6dvs0HYYhIX7q0Hsrk4hAT2MUpMnDOBBSQhJLCBUaJ9lxBE4gCTxIIZj1ghnAZGiSU/P7CC VLEIaEvM/jINzGYTUJGY+WYj2FgRoPjiZ28ZQWxmAWmJhvWbmUBsYQEvibmbLoLVcApoStxf dg/M5hWwl9j0r40dYnOQxN43f8BmigroSKzeP4UFokZQ4uTMJywQM/0kbv2fwziBUXAWktQs JKlZjBxAtpnEhr3ZEGFtifs329gWMLKsYpRNya3SzU3MzClOTdYtTk7My0st0jXUy80s0UtN Kd3ECA5sSZ4djG8OKh1iFOBgVOLhdZDe7yfEmlhWXJl7iFGSg0lJlHezDlCILyk/pTIjsTgj vqg0J7X4EKMEB7OSCO9qu31+QrwpiZVVqUX5MClpDhYlcd6DOxz8hATSE0tSs1NTC1KLYLIy HBxKErzhwAgWEixKTU+tSMvMKUFIM3FwggznARp+Rxeohre4IDG3ODMdIn+KUVFKnNcIpFkA JJFRmgfXC0s8rxjFgV4R5n0M0s4DTFpw3a+ABjMBDWZR2AsyuCQRISXVwOixWUn9ZTnPpU3s ZWZh7Qox5R0sdRl/koX//Tvq6f/ypagYg6FOxbfeqK2Tt0XfOfK+wTxad3Ft85vytDrW/REa wTv0U3t70h3iLOUfBV4yrFt7yuvwXZbTTfZ/6tkbzuQc8GLfIPz6xvteKfvpPt4aQecPKCqq 7zY5mLpyo4fHga8nzhVeUGIpzkg01GIuKk4EAPCXPzYXAwAA Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: handbook/network-servers: a note about ntpdate might be added X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:43:09 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---559023410-285068882-1321152185=:882 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sat, 12 Nov 2011, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > On 12/11/2011 12:19 =CF=80=CE=BC, Taras Korenko wrote: >> Hi, folks. >> According to [1], the ntpdate utility is to be retired from&os;. Thi= s=20 >> info >> might also be reflected as a note in '30.10.3.1 Basic Configuration' of= =20 >> [2]. >> I hope that the position of insertion is correct, but my wording=20 >> definitely >> requires a lot of polishing :-/ >> >> handbook/network-servers/chapter.sgml,v 1.138 >>=20 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- >> 5306=09 >> 5307=09=09Basic Configuration >> 5308=09=09ntpdate >> 5309 >> >> The following information about&man.ntpdate.8; = is=20 >> still >> applicable, but keep in mind that the ntpdate utili= ty=20 >> is to >> be retired soon from&os;. >> >> >> 5310=09=09If you only wish to synchronize your clock when=20 >> the >> 5311=09=09 machine boots up, you can use&man.ntpdate.8;. This=20 >> may be >> .... >> 5328=09 >> 5329 >>=20 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- >>=20 >> 1. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dntpdate >> 2.=20 >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-ntp.ht= ml >>=20 > > The Handbook only refers to ntpdate for the one-off setting of the clock= =20 > during boot. In fact ntpd supports also this kind of setting using the=20 > following in rc.conf: > > ntpd_sync_on_start=3D"YES" > > I think we should include this info and either remove the info on ntpdate= or=20 > clearly mark it as a secondary and deprecated option. Ideas? We should definitely cover the ntpd functionality. I would just as soon not mention ntpdate as well, other than something=20 like "this functionality used to be provided by an ntpdate(8) utility". -Ben Kaduk ---559023410-285068882-1321152185=:882--