From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 21 10:16:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18286 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:16:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hosting.doublesquare.com (hosting.doublesquare.com [195.5.128.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18275 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:16:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ark@eltex.ru) From: ark@eltex.ru Received: from eltex.ru (eltex-spiiras.nw.ru [195.19.204.46] (may be forged)) by hosting.doublesquare.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01798; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:15:49 +0400 (MSD) Received: from paranoid.eltex.spb.ru (root@border.eltex.ru [195.19.198.2]) by eltex.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA06002; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:16:10 +0400 (MSD) Received: (from ark@localhost) by paranoid.eltex.spb.ru (8.8.8/8.7.3) id UAA01561; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:19:58 +0400 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:19:58 +0400 Message-Id: <199809211619.UAA01561@paranoid.eltex.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: from "Marc Rassbach " Organization: "Klingon Imperial Intelligence Service" Subject: Re: Packet/traffic shapper ? To: marc@tandem.milestonerdl.com Cc: ark@eltex.ru, luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, ark@eltex.ru, oppermann@pipeline.ch, easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu, kev@lab321.ru, mike@smith.net.au, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- nuqneH, [ipfilter mailing list removed from cc's by Darren's request] There is thing that looks much better to start with, it is called "dummynet". It uses ipfw and requires heavy modification to be ran without it. Marc Rassbach said : > > > On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 ark@eltex.ru wrote: > > It is the fact it is not flexible enough that disturbs me. > > I definitely do not like the idea of patching every interface driver. > > Instead of handwaving and trashing about saying its ugly/no its not, then > why not take the code, re-write it, and re-submit it? > > IPFW at one time was considered ugly and such. IP-FILTER was considered > the way to go. Now, for FreeBSD, IPFW works JUST fine. > > So, if you don't like what ALTQ looks like, re-write it. Submit your > changes to the maintainer. Who knows...in 2 years YOUR version of ALTQ > will be standard. But standing about saying it ugly isn't going to > accomplish much, now is it? > > (We now return you to your reg. programming) > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNgZ8raH/mIJW9LeBAQFplAP/aM0h9JOnqieH32weylKgQEEw6oMnUpwC BGRKmgzofaq/Ks0yUQ5PA24+R0oDDurIB6OLG7klynbn/fo2+2+mrlkodfXyORWa Eln2YDNae85815Yr8WsOLSbUvV65DkPCCEuWrnSH6e75e4Jpc6Z4o5MZwAt16HrX UvuEF6h2/SU= =Lg7g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message