From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 11 11:19:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FEA16A46B; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1B113C448; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:19:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7752F17383; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l6BBJeSV056224; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:19:40 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Robert Watson From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:15:13 +0100." <20070711115332.I67691@fledge.watson.org> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:19:40 +0000 Message-ID: <56223.1184152780@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: Rui Paulo , Shteryana Shopova , freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org, "Constantine A. Murenin" Subject: Re: Porting OpenBSD's sysctl hw.sensors framework to FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:19:42 -0000 In message <20070711115332.I67691@fledge.watson.org>, Robert Watson writes: >On Wed, 11 Jul 2007, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >So it sounds like it would be useful for Constantine to help flesh out a few >pieces of understanding: Add to this: - Is it possible to correctly identify the hardware platform, so that we know where to find the sensors and know what they measure, without bloating the kernel with a lot of tables. The major technical challenge is that sensors are not documented on the majority of systems, unless you know in advance where to look for them. IPMI and ACPI tries to do something here, but the former is only available on serverhardware and the latter more often than not, comes only with the minimum necessary to avoid melted plastic. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.