From owner-freebsd-current Thu Aug 31 20:42:59 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA09576 for current-outgoing; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 20:42:59 -0700 Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA09568 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 20:42:57 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA24081; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 20:36:22 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199509010336.UAA24081@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: pseudo device lkm's broken To: davidg@root.com Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 20:36:22 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com, bde@zeta.org.au, wollman@lcs.mit.edu, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, jhay@mikom.csir.co.za In-Reply-To: <199509010231.TAA22268@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at Aug 31, 95 07:31:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 905 Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Yeah, I think this is a large part of the issue. It would nice to have the > symbols, anyway, so that we can provide the operator with a traceback when the > system crashes. I get so tired of telling people how to lookup symbols with > 'nm /kernel'. ...but this will cost us about 100K more kernel bloat. Sigh. I > really am getting to the point where I think that booting in 4MB will no > longer be possible in the near future. Consider that for that 100k, you can demand-load drivers so that you need not have useless drivers in your kernel. The GENERIC kernel has more than 100k of useless drivers; there just aren't enough interrupt lines on a PC for them all to be useful. 8-). I've got to prototype it before I make any more guesses on numbers. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.