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Date:      Sun, 14 Jan 2024 08:25:36 +0000
From:      David Chisnall <theraven@freebsd.org>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        Sairaj Kodilkar <skodilkar7@gmail.com>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: New to freeBSD and looking for guidance
Message-ID:  <160F8174-556C-41AA-8A67-F1A744EDC6D6@freebsd.org>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I c=
ompletely agree that VirtioFS would be a great project.</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I disagree that the Doors project was completed=
. The implementation got all of the superficial bits (specific to how Swing D=
oors were adapted for Solaris, which didn=E2=80=99t really fit with the Free=
BSD model) but missed the absolutely critical reason why Doors would be usef=
ul: Doors provide a process switch that avoids the scheduler at all and lets=
 the callee run with the scheduler=E2=80=99s quantum. This is phenomenally u=
seful for compartmentalised applications.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">David</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><block=
quote type=3D"cite">On 13 Jan 2024, at 16:53, Warner Losh &lt;imp@bsdimp.com=
&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"=
ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Sairaj,</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Thanks for your interest in the FreeBSD project. We've been aro=
und for a long time, and sometimes ideas on our ideas page are sometimes a b=
it old.</div><div><br></div><div>The Solaris Doors project was done a few ye=
ars ago at <a href=3D"https://github.com/bnovkov/freebsd-doors">https://gith=
ub.com/bnovkov/freebsd-doors</a> so might not be a good choice.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>I'm not familiar with the bhyve integration one. John Baldwin w=
ould be the best person to answer that question. gdb works well enough for m=
e, but this one may still be relevant since I think it would greatly improve=
 performance.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Another idea in line with your vi=
rtualization would be to implement virtiofs on FreeBSD. We have virtual netw=
ork, block , console, etc, but not virtiofs. This is basically FUSE over vir=
tio channels, and&nbsp; isn't too big of a project that would let you use yo=
ur virtualization experience and learn about filesystems.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>There might be other projects as well. This is the one that occurs to=
 me.</div><div><br></div><div>Warner<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 8:53=E2=
=80=AFAM Sairaj Kodilkar &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:skodilkar7@gmail.com">skodilk=
ar7@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello hackers</div><div>I a=
m Sairaj Kodilkar, a kernel enthusiast=20
and looking to explore FreeBSD. I am currently working at samsung=20
semiconductor research and previously interned as linux kernel developer
 at Texas instruments, where I worked on adding xen hypervisor support=20
for their SOC. I previously contributed to unikernel as part of google=20
summer of code where I worked on synchronizing virtio network driver.<br></d=
iv><div>I was going through the ideas list and found&nbsp; "<font size=3D"2"=
><span style=3D"font-weight:normal">Solaris Doors IPC Implementation" and </=
span></font><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-weight:normal">"bhyve gdb-s=
tub/dcons integration". I would like to know if they are still available. <b=
r></span></font></div><div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-weight:norma=
l">Also I am new to FreeBSD, so any guidance on these topics is appreciated.=
</span></font></div><div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-weight:normal"=
><br></span></font></div><div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-weight:no=
rmal">Regards</span></font></div><div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-w=
eight:normal">Sairaj Kodilkar</span></font></div></div></div>
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