From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Dec 4 09:51:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA10888 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 09:51:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA10877 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 09:51:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA17713; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:51:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA25739; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:51:32 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:51:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199712041751.KAA25739@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Ruslan Shevchenko Cc: Sean Kelly , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What can we do about Java? In-Reply-To: <3485937E.F82C9A6@Shevchenko.kiev.ua> References: <34857E98.A0B877C3@fsl.noaa.gov> <3485937E.F82C9A6@Shevchenko.kiev.ua> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FWIW - Sun released JDK 1.1.5 today. Downloading it as I type. :) > Some random comments: > 1. Exists 2 ways for Java on FreeBSD project. > 1. Improve the port of the Sun JDK. Or at least port a newer version and hope for the best. > + : 1. Exists full source for other systems. > 2. It's "canonical" implementation. Yep, that's my take on the matter. Kaffe is probably a better 'long term' solution, but I need Java *today*. > -: 1. Source require licension. It's not an obnoxious license, really. > 2. AWT stuff use Motiff. > (current 1.1.2 JDK port work fine with non-graphics > stuff, but > AWT realization, in practice, unusable) The current port is 1.1, unless you're aware of something I'm not. And, I think the AWT buginess has more to do with lessTif than Motif. > May be anybody can create port with static Motiff > libraries ? Maybe, but in my *very* short attempt to compile using Keith's patches I couldn't get it to work with any *tif, so I gave up trying with Motif. > 3. Strange binary license policy: > why we can not have Sun Java in ports ? One of the bad parts of their license that paranoid people avoid. Nate