Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 22:57:27 +0000 From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 281427] devel/mm, devel/ossp-al, devel/ossp-cfg, devel/ossp-ex, devel/ossp-l2, devel/ossp-val, devel/ossp-var, devel/ossp-xds, devel/shtool, devel/str, lang/p5-ePerl, mail/lmtp2nntp, misc/iselect, misc/ossp-uuid, net/ossp-sa: new upstream, new mirror site Message-ID: <bug-281427-7788-E0MRLmDPTl@https.bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/> In-Reply-To: <bug-281427-7788@https.bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/> References: <bug-281427-7788@https.bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/>
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https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D281427 --- Comment #2 from =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B1 <nabijaczleweli@nabijaczleweli.xyz> = --- > Do any of the current maintainers have access to the new web sites?=20 I suppose they can use sr.ht like anyone else. They can't log into my compu= ter though. I feel like this is fair, and mirrors what we can do with their sit= es. > Or are they even aware of this takeover? It has been noted in http://cvs.ossp.org/tktview?tn=3D209,4 > Did you contact Ralf S. Engelschall? See above. idk what else I'd post to him. > Usually a new contributor gains the trust of existent maintainer(s) There were none. The OSSP project had finished and there were no upstream maintainers. Now there's me. Do with this what you wish. I'm just notifying you of this (and of whatever legal issues I found with y= our distribution in the process) because I believe ossp-uuid 1.6.3 &c. will bet= ter serve your users, and the mirrors will better ensure long-term correctness. Also, "usually" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. I'd say that "usually" you assemble the upstream history from other archival sites (https://sr.ht/~nabijaczleweli/urlview-ng) because it doesn't exist a= nd "usually" you post an obituary to the old bug tracker (https://sr.ht/~nabijaczleweli/archivemount-ng) =E2=80=94 https://github.com/cybernoid/archivemount/issues/29 =E2=80=94 and salvage a= mirror of the old upstream site before it decays even more and you can't anymore. Then you apply downstream patches and maybe unbreak whatever else. Those last three points sound awfully familiar. Let's hope for as long as possible it's not the last four. > before he I agree, this doesn't apply to me. > is given access to the existent infrastructure (source code repository, w= eb page, ftp, etc), Everyone has access to the existent infrastructure. I have archived it so y= ou can continue to have access to the contents, and for my and your convenienc= e I have also adapted it to modern formats. > instead of replacing it. Of note here is that you've /already/ replaced it: .if !defined(IGNORE_MASTER_SITE_OSSP) MASTER_SITE_OSSP+=3D \ http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/utils/ossp/%SUBDIR%/ \ ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/utils/ossp/%SUBDIR%/ .endif Most likely because ftp://ftp.ossp.org has been dying, dead, or broken for = an indeterminate length of time (but at least since 2023, when you replaced ftp.ossp.org as "Remove dead ma= in site" https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ports/commit/8449100fd9ecabb4339b1a4ef85= 7c8e53ff6dedb) and trying to complete a mirror over FTP took hours in a special network configuration over one specific client; others at the hetzner colo didn't s= eem to have these issues; ymmv. I have validated it's the same as what's exposed over rsync. I haven't replaced it, and {www,ftp,cvs}.OSSP.org will probably remain in i= ts current form until rse kicks it. It /should/ do this. You are welcome to use my mirror site as well, which I hope to maintain unt= il /I/ kick it. Maybe some-one else will salvage my site and decide to fix whatever blunders I made last week and update the code for 2080 then. I'm simply pre-empting this, just as I hope others will pre-empt me. > Maybe you can ask Ralf for access to ossp.org? I'm not interested in *.ossp.org except for its archival qualities (and the shadow bug reports); this seems like a lot of meddling in rse's infra. Uncl= ear why I'd want this. It's not like you use that anyway. Well, I guess users do once they see the ossp.org link. And they keep posti= ng to the CVSTrac bug tracker. And getting no response since 2009 (because the project had finished by then). > We don't want to end up in another xz situation (https://tukaani.org/xz-b= ackdoor/). Then you're naturally free to pull in any patches piece-meal, under the ter= ms of any applicable licences of course, and I remain interested in any bugs t= hat you do find. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=
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