From owner-freebsd-advocacy Tue Apr 21 11:45:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12866 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:45:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12707 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:44:17 GMT (envelope-from dwilde1@ibm.net) Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-100-79-15.ca.us.ibm.net [32.100.79.15]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA30182; Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:42:42 GMT Message-ID: <353CE87F.EFF21D85@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:42:07 -0700 From: Don Wilde Reply-To: dwilde1@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stuart Henderson CC: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: makes you wonder... References: <199804181916.VAA14407@yedi.iaf.nl> <19980418213331.18062@jraynard.demon.co.uk> <35398553.F354E2DF@ibm.net> <19980419103704.62237@jraynard.demon.co.uk> <353C8D33.27BA1FD@internationalschool.co.uk> <353CB156.3B1FDDB9@ibm.net> <353CBBB6.9D26A329@internationalschool.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stuart Henderson wrote: > One good thing that came out of that, is that most internet providers in > the UK support CHAP. All the ones I know about do anyway (about 175,000 > users between them). Maybe ppp needs to fetch the IP address for the DNS > server though, I'll ask Brian what he thinks :-) > I have Linux PPP configs for IBM.net, I need to get the time to set it up here. If I can do that relatively out-of-the-box, we can give them internet, not dialup, from a local call almost everywhere. I've been spoiled so far by having part of a T1 to use, but I now have to learn dialup. > > I would prefer Java to Perl, but I haven't had enough time to sit > > down and dig into the JDK yet to understand its ramifications. > > There's a lot that can be done with perl, plus it has the advantage you > can use Lynx as well :-) Unfortunately, Perl is such a misbegotten abortion (personal opinion of one who's forced to maintain and add to 200K of Perl code done _before_ the modules were in common usage) that it's enough to scare anybody off computing forever. What the heck does $| = 1; mean? (example) That's why I'd like to look at Java. I would prefer Tcl as a cleaner scripting language, but Perl is much more complete (with CPAN modules). > Have to check with Netscape about distribution as well 'cos v5 just > isn't going to cut it if we want it to look stable :-) ISTR they let > pretty much anyone distribute nowadays though so it might not be a > problem. > How does Mozilla.org feel about releasing NS3 source? I'd prefer that. > > with the tools we give them. Now, if we could do PPP and actually > > bootstrap them into DL the real FreeBSD onto their HDD... :)))) > > I don't think that would be popular here, we have to pay for all phone > calls :( I was referring to PPP to a provider. IBM gives you a month for free. >From that it's just a trip to the nearest mirror of FBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message