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Date:      Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:27:43 -0800
From:      Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Qing Li <qingli@freebsd.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, "Robert N. M. Watson" <rwatson@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r205024 - head/sys/net
Message-ID:  <eaa228be1003120027p3f8731d6xf02134a4db19cc27@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 00:11, Qing Li <qingli@freebsd.org> wrote:
> I like Julian's suggestion because it is simple and very low risk.
> And there isn't a need to check for interface type any more.
> Here is why:

For actual link state, you can already see whether a driver is in
UNKNOWN state, like:

%%%
/*
 * Values for if_link_state.
 */
#define	LINK_STATE_UNKNOWN	0	/* link invalid/unknown */
#define	LINK_STATE_DOWN		1	/* link is down */
#define	LINK_STATE_UP		2	/* link is up */
%%%

Therefore you should be able to easily add assertions and debugging
printfs for interfaces that don't event support *setting* link state
-- which is the real problem more than changing link state, since a
driver probably won't report link as down if it has no intention of
changing it.

It doesn't help that there are two things wrt link state floating
around -- one in the form of LINK_STATE (the one that matters here)
and the other in ifmedia stuff.  I think that's confusing this
discussion gratuitously.

Juli.



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