From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Mar 20 21:32:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C2437B976 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:32:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e2L5VuW39624; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:31:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 21:31:56 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200003210531.e2L5VuW39624@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: dhw@whistle.com, garycor@home.com Subject: Re: IBM Thinpad 600X (26455FU) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, nate@yogotech.com In-Reply-To: <38D7024A.4390CA67@home.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:02:02 -0500 >From: "Gary T. Corcoran" >> [Only nuisance so >> far is the touchpad: tapping it appears to be *identical* to a >> press/release of the left mouse button, thus preventing the ability to >> make a distinction between the two actions.] >I've only used a touchpad PC for about 10 seconds (and didn't like it), >so I'm no expert on this, but I'm curious: I *does* take some getting used to -- but then, so does a mouse. And at least the touchpad doesn't wander off in response to gravity.... :-} >I thought that the whole *idea* of tapping a touchpad was that this is how >you "click" your substitute mouse. What behavior were you expecting? >Again, I'm just curious... The following except from moused (4) may help clarify: Many pad devices behave as if the first (left) button were pressed if the user `taps' the surface of the pad. In contrast, some ALPS GlidePoint and Interlink VersaPad models treat the tapping action as fourth button events. Use the option ``-m 1=4'' for these models to obtain the same effect as the other pad devices. It is the latter behavior that I desired: I was able to get that behavior with an NEC Versa 6030X, so that even though the machine only had 2 apparent physical butons, they could be mapped to (logical) buttons 2 & 3 (respectively), while tapping the touchpad would be treated as pressing button 1. This way, the "chord" to simulate button 2 would be unnecessary. The thing I find obnoxious in the case of the LifeBook is that it seems very well-designed in all other respects, and had it been put together so that the tapping were to generate a slightly differnt input than pressing the left button, the user would have some hope of being able to treat the 2 events as similar or otherwise, as said user might desire. By causing them to generate the same input, there is no way to distinguish them. :-( The only saving grace is that I'm able to do the "chord" about 90% of the time with the LifeBook (vs. about 15% of the time with the Versa). Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message