Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:42:43 +0100 From: Vince <jhary@unsane.co.uk> To: Michael Williams <gberz3@gmail.com> Cc: koitsu@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Tom Samplonius <tom@samplonius.org>, Norberto Meijome <freebsd@meijome.net> Subject: Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server? Message-ID: <469B91F3.3020609@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <BB423734-A845-4625-84FF-C13E0FCCB20A@gmail.com> References: <33091425.4771184570229755.JavaMail.root@ly.sdf.com> <9C1BC8FF-E72B-48EE-A6DA-F6CC3FFBD580@gmail.com> <469B88B0.9070806@unsane.co.uk> <BB423734-A845-4625-84FF-C13E0FCCB20A@gmail.com>
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Amusing to hear they are more secure on FreeBSD than linux although its a shame that didnt work for you. They didnt enable you to use sudo instead of su or something like that did they? I'm afraid i cant recommend any FreeBSD hosting companies though personal experience, (work only does linux and windows,) but i'm sure an ask on or a search of the archives of the freebsd-questions@ , freebsd-net@ or freebsd-isp@ lists will throw up some suggestions. Vince Michael Williams wrote: > First, the output of the grep is: > > root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh > toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root: > daemon:*:1:1:Owner of many system processes:/root:/usr/sbin/nologin > > > . . .that said, the Plesk Module Loader only allows for ".tgz" and > ".tbz" files and is anal about them being of a "module" format, whatever > structure may be. I've tried what I thought were appropriate modules, > and it rejected them saying they were not true modules. > > I'm going to call one more time today. If I get no better assistance, I > will seek out a different company. If you all have any recommendations > let me know. Obviously, the best solution would be to have my ISP set > me up with a static IP and massive amounts of bandwidth. But, seeing as > how that's at least a good 30 years off. . . > > Regards, > Michael > > > On Jul 16, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Vince wrote: > >> For most versions of plesk i've come across (I look after a load of >> linux servers with it installed,) if you have the plesk admin then you >> have root. Look for the modules option, then look for the add modules, >> this should let you upload a shell script which is then run as root >> (horribly insecure but thats plesk, and if you fiddle with their setting >> enough you can change the css of the webapp not to display the page) If >> this is the same on FreeBSD as on linux you can create a new UID 0 user >> if need be using pw in a shell script, or you can put a ssh public key >> in to roots authorized_keys file. I'd definitely advise you get plesk >> removed if you intend to administrate the box by hand though. >> >> If thats no help, when you log into the box by ssh, what is the >> output of >> grep root /etc/passwd >> it should be something like >> root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh >> if not then they have renamed/removed root so try looking in /etc/passwd >> for a user with uid of 0 (third field.) >> This should at least get you a username to ask their support about. If >> they have actually removed the root user your a bit stuffed and >> >> Hope some of thats some help. >> >> Vince >> >> >> >> Michael Williams wrote: >>> Tom, >>> >>> Again, Plesk just came with the server config we asked for. We didn't >>> ask for Plesk, we *asked* for the specific hardware. Plesk was "free". >>> *rolls eyes* >>> >>> Regards, >>> Michael >>> >>> On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:17 AM, Tom Samplonius wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> ----- "Michael Williams" <gberz3@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> No, I don't necessarily need Plesk; although we will be selling >>>>> hosting. It simply came with the default configuration for the >>>>> server. My plan is to manage most everything from the Unix shell. I >>>>> >>>>> just figured I might find a morsel inside Plesk somewhere for >>>>> enabling root access. FYI, logging in as admin didn't work. Any >>>>> other suggestions? >>>> >>>> You are probably better off just asking the hosting company for the >>>> password. You need the root password, and you need to have an account >>>> that is a member of the wheel group (use "groups" when you ssh to see >>>> if your account is ok). >>>> >>>> They might have flagged you as a newbie, and think you are better >>>> off inside the padded confines of Plesk. I work at a hosting company, >>>> and a whole bunch of our dedicated server customers are in over their >>>> heads with their servers as it is. Given that you asked for Plesk, >>>> and are now asking for root, they are probably has made them worried >>>> that the next call from you will be that you deleted /etc, and your >>>> server won't boot anymore. >>>> >>>> If you are planning to do any admin via ssh with root, you will not >>>> want Plesk. Plesk manages all of your software installs. Plesk >>>> includes Plesk specific versions of Apache, PHP, and MySQL. All >>>> patches and updates can only come from SWSoft, or the Plesk universe >>>> will crash. And Plesk ties you to a specific FreeBSD version too. >>>> Plesk versions lag big time for FreeBSD. But on the other hand, it is >>>> big GUI thing, and people like it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Tom >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>
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