From owner-freebsd-net Fri Jun 15 14:23: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAB637B401 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:21:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a011.otenet.gr [212.205.215.11]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5FLLUp13890; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:21:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5FKHw313970; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:17:59 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:17:58 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Orville R. Weyrich.Jr" Cc: Olivier Cherrier , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Actual firewall Message-ID: <20010615231758.A13838@hades.hell.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from orville@weyrich.com on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 09:49:03AM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3A 75 52 EB F1 58 56 0D - C5 B8 21 B6 1B 5E 4A C2 X-URL: http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 09:49:03AM -0700, Orville R. Weyrich.Jr wrote: > If the previously open-licensed source code has developed a more > restrictive license, that does not prevent free use of the old source > code, does it? Rather than throwing the whole thing out, would not the > proper response be to throw out only the more restrictive source code and > find a new programmer to maintian the code base who is more "open"? Oh, please do not start this all over again. The archives show that this topic has been hashed to death. Darren and the FreeBSD core have said their last word, I think. Yes, what you are describing can be done, but there is really no need for anyone to do it. After all, Darren does several of the commits to the source. From my local CVS mirror I can see that there are the following modules related to ipfilter: % cvs -R -q checkout -c | grep ipf contrib_ipfilter src/contrib/ipfilter ipf src/sbin/ipf ipfm ports/net/ipfm ipfmeta ports/security/ipfmeta ipfstat src/usr.sbin/ipfstat ipftest src/usr.sbin/ipftest ipfw src/sbin/ipfw kld_ipfilter src/sys/modules/ipfilter kld_ipfw src/sys/modules/ipfw lkm_ipfw src/lkm/ipfw So, well, I checked out a copy of the sources, to see how many of those commits are actually done by Darren himself. % cvs -R -q checkout contrib_ipfilter ipf ipfstat ipftest kld_ipfilter And counted the CVS commits: % cvs -R -q log | grep '^date' | wc -l 1816 Now lets's see how many of those commits are Darren's. % cvs -R -q log | grep '^date' | grep darrenr | wc -l 1026 Well, this is a rough estimation of what Darren has been doing on FreeBSD's version of ipfilter, but I think you got the idea. -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message