Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:44:30 +0100 From: Ramiro Aceves <ea1abz@wanadoo.es> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> Subject: Re: I can not install FreeBSD 5.3 in an old Pentium 100 MHz Message-ID: <41AEE3FE.1050500@wanadoo.es> In-Reply-To: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNIELJEPAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> References: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNIELJEPAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Ramiro Aceves
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 2:18 AM
>>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>>
>>You are right Ted, when I had Linux installed on that pentium machine it
>>worked even slower than a 486 machine that I also have.
>>Tonight, I downloaded FreeBSD 4.10 mininst cdrom and I successfuly
>>installed in the dog-slow-pentium. I seems to work but it is slow as you
>>said.
>>
>
>
> Can you post the output of dmesg? Just curious.
>
of course
Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project.
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The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE #0: Tue May 25 22:47:12 GMT 2004
root@perseus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium/P54C (99.92-MHz 586-class CPU)
Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping = 5
Features=0x1bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8>
real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes)
avail memory = 11100160 (10840K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0551000.
Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug
md0: Malloc disk
pcibios: No call entry point
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <Host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=0x10b9, dev=0x1449) at 2.0
atapci0: <CMD 640 ATA controller !WARNING! buggy chip data loss
possible> at device 3.0 on pci0
atapci0: Busmastering DMA not supported
atapci0: Busmastering DMA disabled
pci0: <Cirrus Logic GD5434 SVGA controller> at 4.0
pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=0x1274, dev=0x5880) at 14.0 irq 9
rl0: <RealTek 8139 10/100BaseTX> port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem
0x4000000-0x40000ff irq 5 at device 15.0 on pci0
rl0: Ethernet address: 00:02:44:76:07:ca
miibus0: <MII bus> on rl0
rlphy0: <RealTek internal media interface> on miibus0
rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
isa0: <ISA bus> on motherboard
orm0: <Option ROM> at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0
pmtimer0 on isa0
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0
ata1 at port 0x170-0x177,0x376 irq 15 on isa0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
ata1-slave: ATAPI identify retries exceeded
ad0: 520MB <ST3660A> [1057/16/63] at ata0-master BIOSPIO
acd0: CDROM <SAMSUNG CD-ROM SCR-2431> at ata1-master BIOSPIO
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
<snip>
>>Thank you dear Ted for your offer. If I need it I will tell you in the
>>future. This dog-pentium is a Fujitsu model that I hate, cause it is on
>>a "landscape" shaped box (I do not know the english word, it is for
>>staying on a table, and the monitor on top of it)
>
>
> Usually referred to as a "low profile desktop" case. If it's a case like
> yours that won't take a standard motherboard, it's a "low profile
> proprietary manufacturers case"
thank you for the explanation
>
> Generally you don't see these much because the newer ATX form factor,
> requires too much room for the standard low-profile desktop
> case to fit. Also, nowadays at least in the US, the threat of workers
> compensation lawsuits has pretty much got most larger companies to
> throw away their older non-ergonomic office furniture. The new office
> furniture is designed for a keyboard and monitor to sit flat on the desk
> and be at the correct height. From a big companies point of view
> they don't want the low-profile desktop cases because then the screen is
> too high, and it can become a liability issue for repetitive stress
> syndrome injury claims.
>
<snip>
>>As you can see, I am collecting old machines just to play. I do the same
>>with valve black and white TV sets. I have got my first TV with 35 years
>>old working in a room at my house in the countryside :-)
>>
>
>
> :-) I threw away the last black and white valve (tube) tv I had about 20
> years
> ago when I was in college. And even then that TV was about 30 years old.
That is amazing!
Thanks for all!
Ramiro
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