From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 4 15:07:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490A048D for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:07:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin.kelly4000@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFD08FC16 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:07:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 16so4948642obc.13 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 07:07:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=xpOSDC8OXj5gWrRLRKXtHcEKrDOEb3InglBqPIUhxug=; b=XIFW6CuV3Lfi2NqRtui9YPtwJY/5jR0KfZhUxEz2XgYr8/z3lzLOjxw0e9GyzJ3u1E 88bJ08RnNiKQxrkhSCts6iILLQPZQElXD0qpZe0AE3CS9bOpjaM0wsndJrlG1oWsWoWY HrluyGA5/OXsFImz75sDNskkOgKluPGC8vjvdNRDJXY0cgqIhIH3yQv5qW8tIwVnuG2C JBYqTfNh4ToohvjAxN/Rs2ivx+8N5N/6/bLdqEkTiMyeToSut2FKq1T+K4GED0stQWfC 2PHxeVfuEWYKLMSgmlLeKLhdic+ewF6H12AVhx8y91Jl8N4FmJUVHFAHhuQdrA2gDI1L aP+A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.240.50 with SMTP id vx18mr7842981obc.31.1354633626310; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 07:07:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.76.233 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 07:07:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1352882728.28075.140661153435965.302F0E4C@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87a9tw5qju.fsf@inbox.ru> <87wqwyuyxb.fsf@inbox.ru> <50BDAE0C.90303@marino.st> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 02:07:06 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Fwd: Unified BSD? From: Martin To: John Marino Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: users@dragonflybsd.org, misc@openbsd.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org, Aleksej Saushev , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 15:07:07 -0000 Sorry forget that last message. GNOME was a bad example, but you did in essence you clarify my point. That FreeBSD or whichever one you talk about may or may not be using a different pkgsrc branch. I didn't call any components standardized, i said even if you *were* to standardize certain components for all BSDs (related to package management/ source) you still would have to get around the fact that each of them may use a different pkgsrc branch. Otherwise you wouldn't have the current differences in software compatibility where FreeBSD has what (28000 packages?) and NetBSD has (15000?) On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Martin wrote: > I understand that, what your not getting is that i am talking about the > release schedule of the individual BSD distros not the release schedule of > pkgsrc. > > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 7:02 PM, John Marino wrote: > >> On 12/4/2012 07:14, Aleksej Saushev wrote: >> >>> Martin> >>> writes: >>> >>> I can see how you could misunderstand what i said. >>>> >>>> My point was about that each of the BSD's use pkgsrc in a different way >>>> and >>>> the releases from FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD or DflyBSD don't all rely on >>>> the >>>> exact same packages for every release (i.e. NetBSD 6 and FreeBSD 9 do >>>> not >>>> use the same version of GNOME-2 desktop; poor example), and that >>>> generally >>>> per BSD release they generally blob the binaries that are compatible for >>>> that release together. >>>> >>> >>> No, pkgsrc is one for everyone, unless someone maintains his own branch. >>> As far as I know, only DragonFly and SmartOS do, though nothing serious >>> stops them from using original distribution. Thus NetBSD 6 and FreeBSD 9 >>> use >>> the same version of GNOME, provided that they use supported pkgsrc >>> branch. >>> >> >> >> DragonFly has a git mirror mirror of the pkgsrc cvs repository, but its >> contents are identical to what is in cvs. I would not classify this as >> "maintaining its own branch". We use the same distribution as NetBSD. >> >> Just clarifying this statement to avoid misinformation. >> > >