From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jan 7 7:24:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8980737B401 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 07:24:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627BA43ED1 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 07:24:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h07FOAQU074608 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:24:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.1.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h07FO9fQ048196 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:24:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h07FO95W034261; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:24:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h07FO8Rr034260; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:24:08 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:24:08 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: "Schroeder, Aaron" , "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: 5305 kernel compile issues with 5.0RC2 Message-ID: <20030107152408.GD28476@cicely8.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <025596A38A894B45AFE62346A6BF47464E34D9@waexch1.qgraph.com> <15898.58016.810412.610032@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15898.58016.810412.610032@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 09:22:24AM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > BTW, attempting to remove the keyboard controller for a serial machine > is a silly microptimization. You'll save a few K of kernel memory, at > the cost of totally screwing yourself if you ever need to boot the > machine with a graphics head (like if your terminal server goes bad). I've learned that it's required to remove them. It is to force booting the machine with serial. I already got into this by hosters to plug keyboard and monitor to a machine for maintenance - damn - hosters should know better. When the machine finally crashes you really hate them, because you have been outlocked. Better remove the VGA card completely so they will always have to ask before even trying stupid things. In case the terminalserver goes bad you can still attach a notebook and later reconnected the serial to the terminal server. For emergency remote scenarious it also has been proved to connect a mobile phone by a helping hand. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message