From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 18 01:04:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBC01F09 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 01:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B01F01FE for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2014 01:04:00 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=+k/C6YA6Yq18nzNRnhtd5yiLeJ8M9qngkT3QavS/Mnc=; b=Z+7x/+Rclq9aSm3LZd0/eMGzrh4d9mxqMG9rpIlhuOMGjaz6w6G2wECHccBGIKCBToYRFjXrT5+DQLLF6QJ37np4xFtz1Jn8GGL7fL/DiKSdos7RlzXau0AxB2MhqTT8ODAF/Gc70D/69ziXI83NFTIzuJrk7OrD2qbbyQRwQdQ=; Received: from [39.203.60.175] (port=31817 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WPiRi-001Hdt-Sz; Mon, 17 Mar 2014 19:04:00 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 09:03:52 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: by Subject: Re: Something related to C and C++ Message-ID: <20140318090352.403e6f1f@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20140317103830.53c42ade@X220.alogt.com> <611B8DE5-F593-4574-96AB-0965CA7EDF33@yahoo.com> <5326D093.90308@yahoo.com> <39562806-80F4-4D4C-BAFD-20DCB537B303@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , Johan Bucht X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 01:04:00 -0000 Hi, On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 07:54:50 +0800 by wrote: > I got no chance to learn in college, cause I will graduate this > summer and I want find a job Unix-related, C-related, in my college, > I had not learn much in C and Unix, cause my college use Windows, and > not focus on C-related, and for me, I start learning these this year, > and I think I prefer read books just a little everyday, it can make > me continuously familiar with these material which I like work on. I > got four books in my hand now: C related, Unix related, FreeBSD > related, and C++ related. And I think that the src in FreeBSD base > system is a good way to practice C, like some simple utilities: echo, > ls, etc. And FreeBSD got many historical docs in base system, and I > think it is a great way to understand FreeBSD or Unix world more. The > only problem is that, I find no passion if I just learn, maybe this > will change after I got a related job. just take any small program of your choice and try to write it again. You might look at the sources at the beginning but later you try to write a program by just using 'man program' to get the description. The closer your solution comes to the description, the better you are getting. A question to the others. When I see these comments here, I wonder how bad university education got over time. Is this here typical now or just an exception. Erich