Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 18:17:46 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy <peter@rulingia.com> To: marino@freebsd.org Cc: Matthew Rezny <mrezny@hexaneinc.com>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Advice about /usr/ports/math/gmp Message-ID: <20140107071746.GA32211@server.rulingia.com> In-Reply-To: <52CB765E.1050309@marino.st> References: <20140107010206.00003d43@unknown> <52CB6250.3030009@marino.st> <20140107042527.00002e37@unknown> <52CB765E.1050309@marino.st>
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--C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2014-Jan-07 03:11:28 +0100, John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st> wrot= e: >Yes, the criticism of "well, what exactly is wrong?" is valid, but the >guy did write a couple of PRs, Well, he claims to have written a couple of PRs but has so far refused to divulge any details. Tijl found one but we have no information on the other one. On 2014-Jan-07 04:25:27 +0100, Matthew Rezny <mrezny@hexaneinc.com> wrote: >in my mind. Specifically this: >"I was about to fix it, but found that the license of the code in >question was unacceptable to me. I only contribute to Free Software, >not to Open Source code bearing a license analogous to a law system >that permits people to sell themselves as slaves." I liked that wording and made a note that next time I wanted to send a bug report regarding some GPL'd code, I should state: "I was about to fix it, but could not understand the license of the code in question. I only contribute to Free Software, not to possibly Open Source code bearing a license that requires a law degree to understand." >From his email, he is simply unhelpful. Essentially just "you're >different from GNU/Linux so you're broken but I won't bother to say >how". Great, so helpful. I agree. And, since he's posting from using a GMP Project address, I presume this is official GMP policy. I guess the approved mechanism for reporting bugs in GMP is to include a vague "GMP is broken" statement, with an ambiguous explanation, in the release notes of software that uses or is used by GMP. If pressed, you should state that you can't be bothered to do anything further. On 2014-Jan-07 04:37:02 +0100, John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st> wrot= e: >Yes, if that's an accurate quote, it doesn't reflect well on Torbjorn. It was. >Okay, so let's say he's correct and FreeBSD's base m4 can't build the >latest gmp. Even if he won't tell us what the problem is, at least he >told us there is a problem which could be easily reproduced. That's one problem. The other problems he mentions are: :> * This release will not work on FreeBSD/amd64 before version 10 using :> the 32-bit ABI. The reason is broken limits.h and broken dynamic :> linking. There's no indication of what "will not work" means. It's not clear whether he's talking about compiling (which wasn't supported before 10.x) or running GMP. :> * This release will not work on FreeBSD/amd64 10.0 using the 32-bit :> ABI. The reason is bugs in the compiler 'clang'. Again, there's no indication of what "will not work" means. :> FreeBSD/i386 10.0 does not work for us under KVM or Xen.) That's hardly a recipe for reproducing a problem. --=20 Peter Jeremy --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iKYEARECAGYFAlLLqhpfFIAAAAAALgAoaXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3Bl bnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDBCRjc3QTcyNTg5NEVCRTY0RjREN0VFRUZF OEE0N0JGRjAwRkI4ODcACgkQ/opHv/APuIcvLgCfRus8CuCjLGH3xPsy0MihpdV5 ONoAn2L4ueBdPj8flK8yMEWuEZRaw8ON =mxoz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc--
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