From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 30 22:16:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA0316A4CE; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:16:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtaw6.prodigy.net (mtaw6.prodigy.net [64.164.98.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9B743D3F; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:16:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (ff18ad7a9096f00d3a282058c7d2ebf1@adsl-67-115-73-128.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [67.115.73.128]) by mtaw6.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2V6FDS5022085; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:15:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BDE0752145; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:16:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 22:16:18 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-ID: <20040331061618.GA44796@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20040331060723.GA44504@xor.obsecurity.org> <8022.1080713596@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8022.1080713596@critter.freebsd.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: arch@freebsd.org cc: Alex Keahan cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CFD: XMLification of NOTES X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: arch@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 06:16:21 -0000 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 08:13:16AM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <20040331060723.GA44504@xor.obsecurity.org>, Kris Kennaway wri= tes: >=20 > >It's the "if you build it, they will come" that I don't like: as you > >well know, FreeBSD does not have a good history with people making > >partial architectural changes under the assumption that someone else > >will finish the job later. If Alexey carries this to completion and > >comes up with a useful, usable set of tools, I think that's great! >=20 > Then I think you should consider the tone of your email, because it > was pretty far from anything I would call encouraging. My reply was directed to Alex, who made a number of divergent assertions, and not to Alexey. Kris --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAamIyWry0BWjoQKURArZEAKDJh+DrO7mp0bN5GKxYmFas/A1KnACgkc+9 OAV1AI5a6d0KiFEt7V62ex4= =NVx2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z--