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Fri, 22 Feb 2019 00:12:38 -0500 (EST) From: Charlie Li Subject: Re: Java support To: Aristedes Maniatis Cc: Kurt Jaeger , freebsd-stable References: <20190221101815.GU2748@home.opsec.eu> Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=ml+freebsd@vishwin.info; keydata= mQINBFt7iHUBEADCorTixbMGuHd9WYSKCELlv/TFcRtvpHUw/n9LtXzKixUUwl7iuMFMYTz3 QXePX0Twq4jCQYySfcxWbPkLsSYlPOkaGQ+XytfmIHoqG5ba4i1fp+F41is0oCtLt1+oL84j NKUd13em/JWd+PJeQbSTVnHbT2yaAi7vqWw5WKVaMExjfPGU5TArV46wSRU6Zuy1ZX66q0q5 dPzeBdeKYWJE8aGtyi3pYUpKUOX4gxiNetf6leDFZ4OsexWaRdU0n8fId5d1qwjAE3lOwV5z 0Ilt8t4iXtX3JL3DAQyLZIeXHIg9O3rrpPMXQWSp2/5g39PohNk7farbhcpIKxuDN+L5N6U9 OxNHBSCv9FGDO4R/mw3YwJCovDzsF7RSyXQDIY36yjdh2uTLZ0uD5Ci/DPmJUySFLRvpqWnQ M7V5cYhdqDfcElGpRbi8JZQVYRJjvI5Jj0byG98KeaD0YFxKqmmm+Oh+xWXE7xt/DsBoZeZJ BFP84LvFbwQqprvI+sg+1z2+JIgNbYwl8VaYzfyGnqTEXTOsQYEKTdKA9MODSAsN31MlQICe CIHZV+OwOqH1KQ/mZp59AnpXAmj4T94bnahE9yJtVW/qglX/nTeFNUdu5MyEgkeB0x7mx+t0 3hE20yp/NbyvG1T/o53NHwHiURC/8Fxd1NWPZ6n4X8npQn6iyQARAQABtC5DaGFybGllIExp IChGcmVlQlNEKSA8bWwrZnJlZWJzZEB2aXNod2luLmluZm8+iQJOBBMBCAA4FiEE/3/Cqr5a +41PbEb+jnB43vIDq2wFAlt7iwoCGyMFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQjnB4 3vIDq2zlBQ/7Boe3K9i4pxvIlBWlFDmDuclLiju/LTsc81mO607TIwUMx5p3BfnhqTwqpcuT Gilj2JKSlIw0NioJ3HnPiPyIpMmOmdeLBwvBn8iBmjs14DdDMgKusE8gKc0KRFbTM397rB7K oXj2/R8VF3Uuo8i3vlWyah6p+Osz1dAad/7COqPeM9OBMKaYAOrdKvxMC96l5k+Wc1JKOLeA BP7BtgmQB7HydHUm+dzqUB1rgMP2djIXd5Ngc749kzNQIFvC9ZXbaABw5M4JqKRbVFm08Wgw IUyhkNEtMpkBxMPwqXsk3t1KVptYQSAfW/+8mWDP2sgUOyz9O2IBfb1acCPk04/jf8SsXRaT HzJr64NseWlZUHAMYl9EC09gdE6UDCIHR68+IzutMtgT17Djuu1HRYly+RWAGkyTOeR7Sv/V 2B89Nsq5OfHYs3F2vD57/aRj5TmZJDQWxH/rDYbj8Pk6UjXcaY6QWUtNFidvCMFlBpXuncXU ZWgTsJEyZLHP5SJ7S9sRSHU5+CVUkjsbEFNuHkkGHAkSnpP+HosnH8/q9Rykn9FTamLbiQRQ UxJ6+IlqvOUtRRrMGMBF7ZIFGHcl8tcKynsPTeaHjpqPhCrZx8PmCKKoJHwW4Ua7+cdZkBJq R20qvXuLIrInjkIpA1CbacMckS5a7el6pi/nU0NG1S1K4Zu5Ag0EW3uIdQEQANdl7YHG8JOy HbEYv+7ExSrO96qBRavg1FsDG0riDmlsOSfZ2fqL6/YJF5WsfsX99+YSdIiLQfC4QOw/cA+M I65pgY4cCu42L7YIW/AR+jB1hFg+Q/cbeOwjuKPFYtZvxeDpSsaA6iIR+p+t4DXkjWl86g6W aFLC+til/rCilFHY/1/6M918F1gm/6xCIADDFu0BXLkASc5B4LuvaFEiJIuI9ZoQDIgWxnsX 0tXXE36SwK/XrowzRzsOa+2iOHAPKu7rPGHwy28vO4T5Uq7UynMZG2sK3RTbOijaxL4IJF4W MRqpuGdBSJ4sWmr5aIpgX9au5L1TNAAILJpHXnkv+k825+9VgbhFtFYBHEkgUtXb+w34JnkH okpr9A78dpWb+T+jOEP6ZUgM+4VVy+hCCpbcCVI2PEXu8w2z3+4yZWxIFmy8UYZRoeTMKzV2 zLeisoA0XA8jj548YNPiAl20Mjyoqu42WNv0P8fD9PMTcfLFCj2PlxOhuUFaIUH3ty0/bNeS jPtVK+L9x4W37R7U1tYk+tB5MlPakQiSQtdToB+8K34rnBt/3kCoAYL7Hygw9+qyZrEKZDtP 5JKekfgsy28t1z66xWCUwq9PHuUFiij3cjbwIbskI9uy2+xITcXt4ZqVfpZcdGmjfbdTPkGf PH2pjDoCJaezYdbha/3OVhmVABEBAAGJAjYEGAEIACAWIQT/f8Kqvlr7jU9sRv6OcHje8gOr bAUCW3uIdQIbDAAKCRCOcHje8gOrbExnD/9qwSL4HiorJmUEJ+5CTh8IJql4PzeQK8Dx93gi Zs5jWVlCJTmcpQNirWIZM2eRt67C/wTJjLmEVGzySVLpGiUqhXqdROgFmDwvEnmpIbtWWyvG sgSOCmZj/tz0GEtLSsjJcV/kLffkv7XEKkt9ZjIJnFYVYSovDK1o2PoO6Rfi5AWHHB7jYhjS HJvJjDx0yClO9gEYhtw7R60YOLH+cKoDou9tu+4wR3QwRsNGO6wrzLGhptxuBrDMI+HuOx+j wBTliuzuvZrry6OdKDDdq5D4vvQCj4vFnK4p7LZXhBshCMoLkWoA0I2T+YF/V5Ob5EuvsTIC re/pO/g941ipVkehvVNAsiplSaHjasB1HS6BQ95csI8E/b6PnKm+IECp2bANbLP1jrxKeBGj UkeyRxTmOV/ADUIIj8S4a2yOxTxlysN2O5wqXCJcxaYelC/Y4TUcL6ENxn2dLBdCYKQEna0u DdxZp7fS+pXN6qyK8Qz6Q42MHAxFAZdLKf6a44d4HQt6rPcWdETVlnVKnJr0b9kg5K1Q8N4k PVoTGVrkGAZhmjFYsqWulq445VU46mX7WcqsrZx8LqNTwP6i3Bf71FJ9EBxTyA8fP8k0qosP 8U8D7jhcc5x4yVW8RBBtB+a5q3odWdFnjMLEm4wtxBH/mSN/UKRcFSBvKQ8FxTgpX4Yxcw== Organization: FreeBSD Message-ID: <1942e86e-8a6a-d5ca-c701-abb1036b5ee2@vishwin.info> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 00:12:32 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WybwWlOEDytkW63jXBDir7GdhzG4ggKAH" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 3CC83822A4 X-Spamd-Bar: -------- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.55 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[vishwin.info:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[vishwin.info,reject]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[gehlot.vishwin.info,varun.vishwin.info]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.948,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.49)[ip: (-9.91), ipnet: 46.101.80.0/20(-4.96), asn: 14061(2.48), country: US(-0.07)]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:46.101.80.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[vishwin.info:s=fuccboi12]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/mixed,text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2019 05:12:52 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --WybwWlOEDytkW63jXBDir7GdhzG4ggKAH Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="O3An6z3qZQPNN7zWLOvtk7a9HTOR3yG8e"; protected-headers="v1" From: Charlie Li To: Aristedes Maniatis Cc: Kurt Jaeger , freebsd-stable Message-ID: <1942e86e-8a6a-d5ca-c701-abb1036b5ee2@vishwin.info> Subject: Re: Java support References: <20190221101815.GU2748@home.opsec.eu> In-Reply-To: --O3An6z3qZQPNN7zWLOvtk7a9HTOR3yG8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB-large Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/02/2019 18:00, Aristedes Maniatis wrote: > On 21/2/19 9:18pm, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >> Are there plans for the Foundation to sponsor some work in this area? >> Your point is, that the FreeBSD community should do regular testbuilds= >> for >> >> https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/openjdk-jdk9u/ >> https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/openjdk-jdk10u/ >> https://github.com/AdoptOpenJDK/openjdk-jdk11u/ >> >> and provide patches if something does not build or work, right ? >> >> And, if necessary, fund someone to do that work ? >=20 >=20 > Yes. Although I don't think there is a need to worry about the short > term releases 9 and 10. Only the LTS branches like JDK11 are being > supported by many OS vendors. >=20 > https://access.redhat.com/articles/1299013 >=20 >=20 > My concern is that it might be beyond the capability of the open source= > community to do the amount of work required here in a timely manner, an= d > so this might be an opportunity for the Foundation to step in and and > ensure this vital work is done. Perhaps ongoing maintenance is easier > once AdoptOpenJDK is brought up to speed on the BSD bits required. >=20 I don't think this is beyond the open source community's capabilities at all; quite the opposite. The real crux is individual priorities. Please refer to the following PR: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D222568 The last comment there is exactly the point of what I had typed in an earlier incarnation of this email message before I had some second thoughts on just how rude it could come off. --=20 Charlie Li Can't think of a witty .sigline today=E2=80=A6 (This email address is for mailing list use; replace local-part with vishwin for off-list communication if possible) --O3An6z3qZQPNN7zWLOvtk7a9HTOR3yG8e-- --WybwWlOEDytkW63jXBDir7GdhzG4ggKAH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE/3/Cqr5a+41PbEb+jnB43vIDq2wFAlxvhMUACgkQjnB43vID q2zXZRAArrD4MIytN4zNXn2ejxCkh4FX8KJRm48TRxoDz/ldN2U4CnPtLoPKzrlH sdFdlvlkQoo8CBCv2S04rZyj9xpqvToh8Our23pJAuUg0UJsV/OaRexO1QuaRkzQ b9MMJEJTWtXnc6YhEM8ODh6l5VGmUbfBluAabFzXtPagdR3Ww05ZYdSTkKkBPw+R HzvchSmZPL6upEoCATVcRCdBinR6tHQeSDgA+6qwlNcamWATj5bExaVkOoC0ZBv+ pOoYRPOI3c5fDm42usoBC6TKizjuP66vWxLprdxXF7IJ5Ikf9V1bh18QC+QuinD3 J+G0cDKAI+KzdTS7Izco9sy+ioi29yVr3XlqeNbchGp710hg4mXcUIornlHCfoCf Zt6NqOzu/uXEhYZdelZy57lBCeOYiy5TFi1zV+8Sudce2C+RGexBYSAfi5mBwOKN /eewB15qIyUrR6EabGHuKiWgmkAhmmllrkxV2K+JVkFxGrzBG69CnGh0hzBzDhBm qQC/D1e7TmT80hMyEORdP4u4rCabZU4hIrzRyFMB5oseAdMHhKF6VGo/la5F+Q+l tcX+5VCpc5lS2cyEz0k45OjcyKe9/nlKZRS4p1m53F400qrrRvcizZqhb3c5SEcG +AKVlA+v31BHvAQWnKGRuPQs6Zss2zjy0ChZEVp1OlGRnH+CtwI= =L109 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WybwWlOEDytkW63jXBDir7GdhzG4ggKAH--