Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 11:27:07 +0100 From: Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> To: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> Cc: John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smr inp breaks some jail use cases and panics with i915kms don't switch to the console anymore Message-ID: <20211214112707.9bd528d32d6b8e3f2e3c62fe@bidouilliste.com> In-Reply-To: <YbhugNoi%2B4uy8O%2B6@FreeBSD.org> References: <1db0942e-0e66-4337-ce2f-4e1005107435@FreeBSD.org> <Ybd8d5nzx25w9cAV@FreeBSD.org> <20211213183222.f945b2e730f7c22dbe74681c@bidouilliste.com> <YbhDoEzXYPlC%2Bjjb@FreeBSD.org> <20211214091427.c531cf51b0284d8a1165b9bb@bidouilliste.com> <YbhugNoi%2B4uy8O%2B6@FreeBSD.org>
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:14:24 +0000 Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 09:14:27AM +0100, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 07:11:28 +0000 Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > > ... > > > Oh, you know, it's about steadily deteriorating quality of our gfx > > > stack once we had started pulling things from Linux. > > > > Right. > > That just proves that you know nothing and will just complain on > > everything "new". > > I know that I had problemless desktop some 10-5 years ago, okayish > desktop ~three years ago, tolerable experience with 4.16.x DRM bits > and shitty one with current 5.4.x (FWIW, 5.x had been problematic > for me since the beginning, but previously it was fairly easy to > build drm-fbsd12.0-kmod on -CURRENT to avoid regressions, now the > source bases had divered too far enough; it's probably still possible > to patch, but would take longer time). Any PR open for your issues ? > > We've *always* pulled drm bits from Linux, always. > > You know what I've meant. I do because I know the history, not everyone does. > > > In FreeBSD chat and with less biased poll than the one Warner had posted > > > on Twitter, most people had actually voted against making it off by > > > default: https://t.me/FreeBSD1/25129. > > > > So nothing changes then? > > How do you mean? Most FreeBSD people, not some random Twitter crowd, want > the bell to be on by default, but it's still off. > > ./danfe > Sorry I didn't see the "against". Well this telegram chat is still a community one, I don't see how it makes a difference. Also I can't see the poll result. -- Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> <manu@freebsd.org>
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