From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 21:05:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5896116A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:05:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.komquats.com (h24-108-145-252.gv.shawcable.net [24.108.145.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51BD43F75 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:05:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Received: from cwsys.cwsent.com (cwsys [10.1.1.1]) by mail.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BE721F00; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:05:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAL552Fk081879; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:05:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Message-Id: <200311210505.hAL552Fk081879@cwsys.cwsent.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.komquats.com/ To: "boyd, rounin" In-Reply-To: Message from "boyd, rounin" <078a01c3afe0$5e2f5040$b9844051@insultant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:05:02 -0800 Sender: Cy.Schubert@komquats.com cc: Bruce M Simpson cc: Dimitry Andric cc: current@freebsd.org cc: Richard Coleman Subject: Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cy Schubert List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:05:08 -0000 In message <078a01c3afe0$5e2f5040$b9844051@insultant.net>, "boyd, rounin" write s: > From: "Bruce M Simpson" > > During my time in an investment bank, installations were usually hosed > > in this way by human error (systems administrators removing a file by > > accident, etc) ... > > yup, it's rare i've seen flakey h/w. but i do remember one sysadmin > (when i was a contract sysadmin) who on day 2 chown'd the whole > source tree to himself on a development m/c. ugly. there were > backups but 'that would be too costly [in time]' to do a clean restore. I've seen that too. An end user got permission from management to the root account, e.g. management ordered us to give her the root pw on a Tru64 box. She chowned every file on the system to herself. Very ugly indeed. Cheers, -- Cy Schubert http://www.komquats.com/ BC Government . FreeBSD UNIX Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca . cy@FreeBSD.org http://www.gov.bc.ca/ . http://www.FreeBSD.org/