From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 19 21:17:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23651 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:17:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.acadiacom.net (ns.acadiacom.net [206.104.52.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23641 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:17:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ralf@acadiacom.net) Received: from ralf (unverified [206.104.52.89]) by ns.acadiacom.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.5) with SMTP id ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:20:53 -0600 Message-ID: <3511FB61.4B97@acadiacom.net> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:15:13 -0600 From: Ralf Black Reply-To: ralf@acadiacom.net Organization: Crescent City Satellite X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sue Blake CC: lfloyd@sonic.net, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newbies list [was: partition spanning multiple drives] References: <3.0.1.32.19980319164854.006985c0@pacificnet.net> <19980320132212.34408@welearn.com.au> <3511E7DB.E8C7FF64@sonic.net> <19980320154907.30953@welearn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Maybe you should change the name of the list to "freebsd-chat". The name "freebsd-newbies" gives me to understand that I, as beginner, could ask questions and they might be answered by a more seasoned veteran. As you can see, the demand is here. I used to be a subscriber to "frebsd-questions" and received an average of 120 messages per day, but 95% are useless to me, because I didn't understand what the talk was about. I don't know what questions are not allowed in freebsd-questions, but noticed that newbies are used for laughing stock on this list. As for me, I don't run FreeBSD yet. But this could be a great mailing list to evaluate the product and ask stupid questions without being laughed at. One last remark. I noticed that every FreeBSD mailing list has an attitude proplem. I'm not surprised that people buy Windowze and point and click away. Regards, Ralf Black Sue Blake wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 19, 1998 at 07:51:55PM -0800, L. Floyd wrote: > > I got Val's post through the freebsd-newbies listserv group... so isn't > > this the correct group to post this question to? > > All questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as > usual. This is more of a chat group, a place where newbies can relax and be > with other newbies, without feeling surrounded by experts focusing on our > imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on > freebsd-questions. We're a bit freer to make the mistakes we need to make in > order to learn, without getting in anyone else's way. > > The posts to the lists are not moderated, so they go straight through > whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while > because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. I get to make the > biggest ones :-) > > It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing > list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. > The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is > to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these > problems out privately. > > One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, > believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not > realising it's primarily a chat group. If someone answers those questions > the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to > redirect their question to freebsd-questions. Also there's nothing > wrong with the occasional mistake, so we'll always be gentle. > > Normally when you get information about a list, and certainly when join a > list, you're given specific instructions as to what it's for and what's > allowable etc. That's where I've fallen down, and I'm sorry that some people > might be getting the wrong impression. I'm trying to get the full > information posted right now, but it'll take time to trickle through. > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- > > find / -name "*.conf" |more > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message