From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Mar 9 06:59:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26269 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:59:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postman.opengroup.org (postman.opengroup.org [130.105.1.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26254 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:58:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k.keithley@opengroup.org) Received: from benway (benway.camb.opengroup.org [130.105.9.33]) by postman.opengroup.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA28177 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:58:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350403F3.7AC7@opengroup.org> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 10:00:03 -0500 From: "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" Organization: The Open Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/715) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WINE (was: Uncle Sam, got a million bucks?) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Christopher Sedore wrote: > > I'd like to see an lightweight X11 replacement (eg photon), Where is there information on photon? Lightweight in terms of what? Bandwidth? Memory footprint of the application? Something else? What strategy does photon offer for preserving the investment that various enterprises have made in their existing X11 applications? Or are you going to pull a Java on me and tell me that the apps have to be rewritten? > and apps to > run with it. A FreeBSD that ran (with GUI and some apps) on an 8MB 486-66 > would be a killer. Five years ago I was running FreeBSD on a 486-25 with 8MB of RAM -- and I was using X too. Three years before that I was running 386/BSD 0.1 on a 386SX-16 with 4MB, and Thomas Roell's X server -- it was no speed demon, but it did work. I'd still be using a 486DX2/66 with 8MB if Frye's hadn't had a special last year on a Pentium motherboard w/ 100Mhz CPU for $150. I run Netscape 3.0x, xfig, a dozen xterms, and more. Yes, the Pentium makes it quite a bit faster, but it was a very servicable machine before I switched to the Pentium. All it takes to have that killer system you want already exists -- and has existed for quite some time now. :-} I suspect that there's some other set of criteria, like performance, that you aren't mentioning. -- Kaleb S. KEITHLEY X Architect, The Open Group X Project Team To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message