From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 24 11:13:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7B7A5F2 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.lhr1.as41113.net (mail.lhr1.as41113.net [91.208.177.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F63F1835 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.21.87.41] (unknown [212.9.98.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lists@rewt.org.uk) by mail.lhr1.as41113.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3fXgd86XQPz7rBW for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <530B2953.3030901@rewt.org.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:13:23 +0000 From: Joe Holden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent References: <20140223211155.GS1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <530B13CA.6000005@rewt.org.uk> <33612.1393235765@critter.freebsd.dk> <20140224100036.GA1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <530B2500.5030608@rewt.org.uk> <37319.1393239415@critter.freebsd.dk> <530B2750.3050200@rewt.org.uk> <20140224110842.GA83610@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <20140224110842.GA83610@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:13:34 -0000 On 24/02/2014 11:08, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:04:48AM +0000, Joe Holden wrote: >> On 24/02/2014 10:56, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>> In message <530B2500.5030608@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: >>> >>>> Can I also suggest that ntp.org shouldn't be in the base either? :P >>> >>> I absolutely agree, but the replacement is less clear in that case. >>> >>> >> I'd suggest openntpd as a candidate as it would require less work than >> dntpd since that has some kernel changes. >> >> At ~400K it is pretty lightweight and doesn't listen at all by default, >> suitable as a default ntpd that just maintains time - one can always >> install ntp.org from ports should they need more features (such as >> access control and monlist, etc) > > openntpd not able to authenticate the sources it is using and thus lack a big > ntp feature as a client. > > regards, > Bapt > hm, I can't say I have noticed this as being a problem where I've used it, are there any scenarios where this is a showstopper?