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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 22:28:12 -0000 Hi.=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0A> From: Warner Losh =0A> To: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" ; "freebsd-= arch@freebsd.org" =0A> Cc: =0A> Date: 2018/6/14, Thu 01:5= 5=0A> Subject: Armeb removal before 12=0A> =0A> I'd like to remove armeb be= fore 12.0.=0A> =0A> It's poorly supported today.=0A> =0A> Nobody has tested= the concurrency kit changes on it. And ck is now=0A> mandatory. We don't e= ven know if it works or not.=0A> =0A> Last time we asked, it took quite a w= hile to find users.=0A> =0A> It maxes out at 256MB of RAM. This is barely l= arge enough for FreeBSD to=0A> run in.=0A=0Asys/arm/ralink target is only 1= 6M of RAM. I use bridge on this target=0Awork fine.=0A=0AI have FWIXP422BB = target(Planex BRC-14VG) with 32M of RAM. I never build=0AFreeBSD for this= =A0target.=0A=0AI want build for=A0FWIXP422BB but clang cross build is very= slow. It take=0A7 hour on my machine.=0A=0A> =0A> The hardware was last ma= de almost a decade ago.=0A> =0A> It uses non-standard non-mainstream boot l= oaders (boot technology has moved=0A> on from redboot).=0A> =0A> The cost o= f doing API sweeps, make universe runs, etc exceeds the benefit=0A> to the = project.=0A> =0A> So, given all these factors, it sounds like a good candid= ate for retirement.=0A> =0A> Therefore, I'd like to remove it on July 15th.= =0A> =0A> Comments? (please keep=A0 them on topic to this specific thing: t= here's other=0A> things that may also be past their freshness date, we'll d= iscuss those in a=0A> separate thread).=0A> =0A> Warner=0A> _______________= ________________________________=0A> freebsd-arm@freebsd.org mailing list= =0A> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arm=0A> To unsubscr= ibe, send any mail to "freebsd-arm-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A>