From owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Thu Jul 12 21:54:11 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8362D104BA42 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 21:54:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-io0-x234.google.com (mail-io0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D21282BCE for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 21:54:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-io0-x234.google.com with SMTP id i18-v6so13846542ioj.13 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 14:54:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=+bD34LZLj7hQxZwtSz1YzTsWN6gGrXZvWzeyhGIsapA=; b=S+6BJMG7ls0R2nVcjsps6MYeFWLoqkIK/+6dFU1pXcTw//+olbxXLdJcRVOT67y02y REOSyu4NLBqaLFF+OtdWsw2zYKtolQZp0gYvzd+dmAbeAh8LkvqAfiXvvXjWhWcvuWk0 poukqhH4qBQt5rutDME2OVzdHR+9AEhd3iDV4RLLXYQRyyLAut+bCfOcP26P39Gmo5zs slSYvMtMgest+ATDfaqkTYP2iRkOYJv5w+r9bul8C8ILVourK1bLOjQnxn0Lzuj7vV8i lBlcvUEY1bVoQvdAufLTvIJO8NltVatFsB6qhI7KQ5grTlxiFXbMGBj7+wnWb0cafgIO nNLg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+bD34LZLj7hQxZwtSz1YzTsWN6gGrXZvWzeyhGIsapA=; b=UdQ9NBK8fDlQ1ZkTszSAm+F7Ax5GNxW3DuAcMbAE5o7bQtQztP7zLQsIxQXyHxUgN6 TtlEU/qgtnXWk4pskWcN52x/QxD5jbK0LpmXoJSwBfw3ZlY804BASWqNbeZ5NOfgwwZq qZaIOcAkhe9tKrodaIXEGr0Kq5Tw+6JE+RZGhvFkLBBL+VCd07XCeF4qg5EpuKpgXv8Y wFLedtgcEYToTeOui0CkTR4TlyEEjKUDnOgJUbLL4HRnOzNVW6CU+Hyv1u+0C4gI51qh 3oIE//QtCT7awa7I2ZyAvz/34vjjzKBx9piDdV9dZ+qFWeMqobohCG+Tdb3KCk9LRTQZ oyMA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlETshkZF2fdy5BArMXSAnlmQhns1fTyTtfVgX0jokuVgJ8Hifbo xkI29C+ad62YD+2UjU+sCjuDttuB1ACFZ5DAfaCtwA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpcDj7ZDkniZGI5mZG1pCTnjp3nV9XLdO8k/3SCS2ufVpNDdbrRNy1PIhwEJVDvH6Kjg4isjn7qH1cGiTtoU7YM= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:3902:: with SMTP id g2-v6mr22272392ioa.168.1531432450228; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 14:54:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 2002:a4f:1183:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 14:54:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] In-Reply-To: <201807122111.w6CLBjP2080376@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> References: <201807122111.w6CLBjP2080376@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:54:09 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0BdGof39f-DxRNGZ5m0cWKbZoZo Message-ID: Subject: Re: Retiring two more: Atmel and Xscale To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 21:54:11 -0000 On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > I'd like to retire Atmel and Xscale support prior to 12. The atmel stuff > > has been dodgy for a long time and generally lacks the memory to run > > FreeBSD well. We have no current users of it. > > > > The Xscale stuff is old enough to not be relevant. There's no known > users. > > Part of it is already set to go with the big endian stuff, but is there a > > reason to keep the rest? > > I thought a depreciation policy was in process to help deal with > all of these. > It will, but these two are no-brainers. The last known users of both of these sub-ports are done with them (Atmel since 8.2, Xscale maybe longer). The one Atmel product I'm aware of will never upgrade past 8.2. The Xscale stuff has not been used even longer in any serious way (since the 7 timeframe, though there were one or two possible single users). If there's no objections, I'll just remove. If there are objections, it will be easy enough to do under that umbrella. Warner