From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Sat Jun 1 00:46:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D68015A5EEE for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 00:46:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x734.google.com (mail-qk1-x734.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::734]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2EB38B0DB for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2019 00:46:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x734.google.com with SMTP id b18so7499271qkc.9 for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 17:46:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=7LlIRJ3TeOqm1pfWcFlC41yR8xvvLKlmfPOyIZr8rxs=; b=O5JZ60FOSP0Z7xgbIF5LF99fMwtNB68mIgSLF2e0/CYSmaYqqtagihCxCHQrAWxN5E yUoSBHXMMRLXUw4dk3lx5t7WNxYIIBvMN5TM5EtlNihCrbDO4nB2+h6UDIO3pgpv9rMF QGG9S5hmWu7BACUVi7shCxZYE9pI4SnvJvu3MFv0Cod5/sFssI5/8vRwmxFfL5mMGjHp jobEpYnCj6bzOYVuu7nYMh9lQOlgJ8/+KxNkQeS9+qHDKxgXZCGt8NaFQ+8ImeBOAf9s JVeCNFmun7ngSehXJcTsDo+ufn0ryS95hsounHTQ2zaxboECKLZU4EyxkGlze2vwBN0i BLPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7LlIRJ3TeOqm1pfWcFlC41yR8xvvLKlmfPOyIZr8rxs=; b=NjZruiFz5dzLR9wYBUCWHX0Pyhf4aVMo8TAK7SHTVe5MF7Qq9fudC9NBQB78aSW4bN 2hbBEuG8/xVzcXm8VVKBXzLRDCsCxt3R7Akwvc4Wft8FUJnLNPq0nZgneA24TAX6+pqq ULMZNe+iMxhAfixopU1ge/1TiFBX/nV6oWodDLp/jcclth+9+fX9v+oCVnLwx59JBse6 SQ+jXIkcfXW8/1Qo1WcD0h5DqpNr1zmJBFkduGOwQXkurQuahGB3hqXDYE6zb5VbBm3K nHnk8df0dxbt0JU4hWzHvIxRRrBqT1LlZDxl++Ou4A+OaN49+Ym5tD/E1RsVEPOE/JdL 8oew== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU8mkLTns2s91qzOUx5Iz1qiQVbhrzu/qOTdMLq6d9XrMXXHZz/ c1xPwCZofxG0JrvoqjhmAfrDeU5Une6bytC1z6ja5w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxJMEnBSyPRVPwhdzGkaYp83w3RpTnGzhDeFs8msNKfZ5Rqu8kzQH3lCQOeaHeKGFF/8gLsZmmPl/atgX4z6QE= X-Received: by 2002:a37:484e:: with SMTP id v75mr10950949qka.331.1559349995046; Fri, 31 May 2019 17:46:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201905312217.x4VMH3YH031668@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 18:46:23 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r344648 - in head: . sys/kern sys/sys To: Kevin Bowling Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Alexey Dokuchaev , Brooks Davis , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers , Mateusz Guzik X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: F2EB38B0DB X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.96 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.965,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2019 00:46:37 -0000 When we move to git, stuff like this just won't matter. So it's hard to get worked up about it now... and even if we weren't heading that way, the history preserved is so small as to say more than "meh" here. There is too little ROI to get worked up about. Warner On Fri, May 31, 2019, 4:56 PM Kevin Bowling wrote: > The vast majority of contributors don't enjoy nit-picking on these > trivialities. If the broader developer community is not rallying for > the revert and some core conspiracy doesn't care about it either, that > forms the de facto opinion of the FreeBSD community of today that this > is trivial and irrelevant. > > Yes, there is vocal absolutism on the fringes about SHALLS and MUSTS > about all sorts of things aside from modernizing FreeBSD and making it > viable on current generation hardware. These parties might be happier > and better aligned with OpenBSD ideologically as well as > personalities. > > Regards, > Kevin > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 3:17 PM Rodney W. Grimes > wrote: > > > > > I know of several people that have blocked your mail. Maybe a moment > > > for reflection on your attitude and approach if you want to be taken > > > seriously. > > > > I would consider repository damange and abuse to be VERY serious. > > I would also consider the treatmeant I am seeing of danfe boarder > > line on contempt. > > But then I also know there are probably some that have blocked me. > > The project, sadly is spiraling around a toilet, and someone is about to > flush.... > > > > It is not what you hear, it is what you are not hearing that makes me > say these things... > > And espcially what core seams to not be willing to hear, and is literly > (I can proove this) > > paying lip service to "solicited feedback". > > > > I asked about some of my solicited feedback, and a core member said he > > could not find it in his inbox and that I needed to locate and provide > > him a pointer to it. THAT my friends is not solicited feedback, that is > > /dev/null of feedback and just plain out right unexcusable. > > > > And note above all else the "product" of the FreeBSD project is NOT > > releases, it IS the repository, and if we get sloppy with that product > > it makes life harder for our consumers. If you have ever tried to > > find the history of a deleted object (which is what the process being > > complained about here creaetes) it is a royal PITA. > > > > Regards, > > Rod > > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:50 AM Alexey Dokuchaev > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 03:20:50PM +0000, Brooks Davis wrote: > > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 09:11:36AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 03:11:40PM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 07:47:51AM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:56:55PM +0000, Mateusz Guzik > wrote: > > > > > > > > > New Revision: 344648 > > > > > > > > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/344648 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Log: > > > > > > > > > Rename seq to seqc to avoid namespace clashes with Linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > Added: > > > > > > > > > head/sys/sys/seqc.h (contents, props changed) > > > > > > > > > Deleted: > > > > > > > > > head/sys/sys/seq.h > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why it was deleted and added as new file instead of being > repocopied? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Retransmit. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ping! > > > > > > > > > > Do you have nothing better to do? > > > > > > > > Oh, I have a lot on my plate, thanks for asking. Now, back to the > subject: > > > > > > > > - I think that this commit was executed badly (not via repocopy) > > > > - I've been trying to contact mjg@ for several weeks, to no avail :( > > > > - All I get in return is an email from a fellow committer asking me > > > > if I have anything better to do > > > > > > > > Sorry, I don't understand this. I don't understand why we ignore > email > > > > from our own community. I don't understand why we do not correct or > at > > > > least explain why what looks like a mistake is actually not(?). I > don't > > > > understand why I'm being ridiculed, not those who make dubious > commits > > > > and fail to defend them. > > > > > > > > ./danfe > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > svn-src-head@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > svn-src-head-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Rod Grimes > rgrimes@freebsd.org > >