From owner-freebsd-geom@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 8 13:55:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D231065672; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:55:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB3C8FC18; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6491B46B58; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (smtp.hudson-trading.com [209.249.190.9]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A79D68A025; Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:54:57 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:49:12 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (FreeBSD/7.3-CBSD-20100217; KDE/4.3.1; amd64; ; ) References: <55861270658151@web135.yandex.ru> <20100408103809.13496s9i6ny03ocg@webmail.leidinger.net> <867hoi8gbl.fsf@ds4.des.no> In-Reply-To: <867hoi8gbl.fsf@ds4.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201004080849.12151.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:54:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at bigwig.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=4.2 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on bigwig.baldwin.cx Cc: Bruce Cran , freebsd-geom@freebsd.org, Teske , Randi Harper , "Andrey V. Elsukov" , Alexander Leidinger , Dag-Erling =?utf-8?q?Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= Subject: Re: [RFC] Rewriting sade(8) X-BeenThere: freebsd-geom@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GEOM-specific discussions and implementations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:55:00 -0000 On Thursday 08 April 2010 5:05:34 am Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav wrote: > Alexander Leidinger writes: > > Please consider using SVN instead. A lot more users will be able to > > check out from there. >=20 > We don't grant non-committers access to the Subversion repo. >=20 > > It looks like other people had a look at sysinstall, not at sade. As > > sysinstall is supposed to be used at installation time, and the intent > > for sade was to offer the functionality (or more) of the part of > > sysinstall which is useful after installation (and to prevent admins > > from using sysinstall after the installation to prevent some unwanted > > foot-shooting), I do not think that we need to think about a strong > > lock between sysinstall and sade. >=20 > Yes we do. Otherwise we'll just end up back where we are today, where > if you want anything more complicated than a single-disk install you > have to drop into the fixit shell and do it manually before running the > installation procedure. Anythig that sade can do, we want sysinstall to > do as well, and we don't want to implement everything twice. >=20 > My suggestion is to add a "sysinstall mode" to sade where it operates > under certain (minor) constraints and reports what it did in a format > that sysinstall can parse, so sysinstall can just fork-exec sade instead > of duplicating the code. Actually, I would rather have sysinstall just invoke sade to do the disk=20 related stuff. Also, I think sysinstall should allow for a "back-door" mod= e=20 where a user can setup partitions however they like and mount them at /mnt = and=20 then let sysinstall use the setup the user created. This will allow users = to=20 setup more complex setups that sysinstall/sade do not currently support and= =20 allow sade to focus on simpler, common usage cases w/o having to handle=20 painful edge cases. It would also allow for new modules to be added to sad= e=20 over time w/o requiring it to support every possible disk layout from the=20 beginning. =2D-=20 John Baldwin