From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 17 04:42:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2B216A41F; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:42:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2E843D48; Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:42:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0H4fh8M095229; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:41:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:41:47 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20060116.214147.22504504.imp@bsdimp.com> To: jrhett@svcolo.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20060112080856.GI84964@svcolo.com> References: <20060112080856.GI84964@svcolo.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:41:44 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Fast releases demand binary updates.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 04:42:10 -0000 In message: <20060112080856.GI84964@svcolo.com> Jo Rhett writes: : 20-something people telling me that my shorthand for -core proves that I'm : an idiot. It wasn't the topic, and it doesn't change the real question one : bit, but it's a great chance for everyone to call me an idiot. core@freebsd.org has a very specific meaning, that is well documented in the FreeBSD handbook. As a member of the core team, I'm deply offended by your inapprorpiate use of the term, and your intransigence when people try to steer you to the 10 year+ established usage of that term. I'm also deeply offended that you've accused us of doing something very bad which we have not in fact done. I'm angry that you've not even appologized for this misuse, but insist that somehow your usage must be right, and everyone else must be wrong. Please use the accepted meaning of the term if you want to be understood by the rest of the community. I never once called you an idoit. I only said that you were wrong and dared you to prove me wrong. You've not taken me up on that offer I see. Please do not confuse my telling you that your facts are incorrect with any kind of name calling. I'll bet that 19 of the 20 people you claim called you an idiot were in fact just pointing out your mistake and that none of them used the word idiot to describe you or your mistake. Thank you for your attention to these details... Warner