From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 18:34:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5FA106566C; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 18:34:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCAE8FC0C; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 18:34:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m51IWDPD032548; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 12:32:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:33:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20080601.123351.-950433793.imp@bsdimp.com> To: bms@FreeBSD.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <483C2666.7010608@FreeBSD.org> References: <45633.1211870269@critter.freebsd.dk> <20080527064253.GG64397@hoeg.nl> <483C2666.7010608@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ed@80386.nl, current@FreeBSD.org, arch@FreeBSD.org, phk@phk.freebsd.dk, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, ade@FreeBSD.org, net@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEAD UP: non-MPSAFE network drivers to be disabled X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:34:45 -0000 In message: <483C2666.7010608@FreeBSD.org> "Bruce M. Simpson" writes: : Other than that, line disciplines can go away. In the past I've uesd line disciplines to implement a keyboard driver for the Apple Newton Keyboard (serial protocol) so I could use it at any point after the loader (the system didn't run X11, so I couldn't use the X11 driver I wrote there). This system has been retired, and I don't think I ever forward ported them past about 3.mumble, if even that far. This code is badly decayed, and I have no requirement that it continues to work. But I know similar techniques are used in some embedded systems. Expect some delayed complaining if they go away entirely. But that may be OK given we're ridding tty of Giant. Now, if we could only sort out the syscons/keyboard/mouse mess... Warner