From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 09:56:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D18216A420 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from se@FreeBSD.org) Received: from spacemail1-out.mgmt.space.net (spacemail1-out.mgmt.Space.Net [194.97.149.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F8A13C480 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from se@FreeBSD.org) X-SpaceNet-SBRS: None X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,242,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="66974443" Received: from mail.atsec.com ([195.30.252.105]) by spacemail1-out.mgmt.space.net with ESMTP; 08 Oct 2007 11:56:03 +0200 Received: from [10.2.2.88] (frueh.atsec.com [217.110.13.170]) (Authenticated sender: se@atsec.com) by mail.atsec.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1543D7208ED; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:56:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4709FEB0.80004@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:56:00 +0200 From: Stefan Esser User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20071002164246.GA986@hades.panopticon> <20071003003329.GA78359@hades.panopticon> In-Reply-To: <20071003003329.GA78359@hades.panopticon> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Need motherboard for home fileserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 09:56:05 -0000 Dmitry Marakasov schrieb: > * Dmitry Marakasov (amdmi3@amdmi3.ru) wrote: > > Thanks for you replies so far. Now after some digging I understand a bit > what I actually need. > > Well, I hoped to get a SocketAM2 board for AthlonX2, as it is 30-40% > cheaper than Core2Duo with similar performance, but most of AM2 > motherboards use nForce chipset, which is unsupported by CURRENT. What made you come to that conclusion??? I use an Abit AN-M2HD (and I know I'm not alone with that main-board) which is based on the nForce 7050/630a and works very well. I had one issue with an LCD connected to the HDMI port (a HDMI-to-DVI cable is bundled) and since it happened outside X11 (i.e., with a text console), it might have been a bogus enabling of HDCP. (Hard to describe, the screen showed a picture like an unsynchronized TV, but steady; only a power cycle allowed recovery ...) > The only solution I've found is M2N32-SLI (thanks Craig), but I'll > need to buy video card and Intel Gbit NIC. The video integrated into the 7050/630a works surprisingly well with the Vesa driver, but is also supported by the current (binary) nvidia driver. (Also, since the upgrade of xorg to 7.3, there is an issue in the port, which reports an API mismatch, but there is a work-around and the port is being fixed to support xorg 7.3, too.) > Though Core 2 Duo CPUs are more expensive, choice of motherboards is > much wider, and they are generally cheaper than M2N32-SLI, so price > of AMD/Intel platforms is nearly equal. I've found some MB's with I prefered the AMD X2 for several reasons, one of the most important ones was idle CPU power consumption. The Core 2 (and typical chip-sets) consume 10W to 15W more idle power, which translates to about $30 a year where I live ... > integrated video and Intel ethernet: ASUS P5B-VM DO, Intel DG33BUC, > Intel DG33FBC. I think I'll buy one of those, but just to be sure, > are those statements right: > - Marvell/NVidia NICs suck, and I am right that I definitely need Intel. > (what about RealTec, btw?) > - ICH8DO should work as well as ICH8 and G33 should work as well as G965 > (didn't find menton of ICH8DO in src/sys/dev/ata/ata-chipset.c) > - ADI*/Realtec(ALC*)/Sigmatel(STAC*) HDA CODECs provide more or less > equal sound quality. And it can be considered `good' to > non-audiophiles. Well, you may want to take a look at the Abit AN-M2 (or -M2HD, if you are interested in firewire support, or possibly in HDMI/HDCP). All functions appear to be well supported (disk, video, sound, integrated PCIe Gigabit Ethernet). Combined with an "Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro PWM" it gives a cheap, compact, and quiet (and power-efficient!) small server with quite good performance (though with only a limited number of PCIe and PCI slots, since it has a uATX form factor). BTW: The AMD/ATI 690G chip set also allows to build a compact home server (and with the recently announced support for an open source graphics driver, the on-chip video may become well supported; but I guess it will work as well with the Vesa driver as the 7050 did when I tried it ...) The 690G should have another 5W less idle power consumption ... (But beware: 690G main-board often have only 100baseTX Ethernet or a Realtek Gigabit Ethernet chip on PCI, which may limit network throughput ...) Regards, STefan So, no reason