From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 16 06:03:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA27090 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27074 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA15271; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:04:04 -0700 (PDT) To: Steve cc: Yura Socolov , Damian Hamill , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: radius, usr total control and freebsd In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 May 1997 08:42:55 EDT." Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 06:04:02 -0700 Message-ID: <15259.863787842@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > Ultimately, of course, there will be solutions which are compatible > > with both, but do you really want to make the investment now? > > > > I have 12 competitors in the area who are. Heh. And I can probably name 20 ISPs here in the Bay Area who are all right now in the process of going broke through price-war tactics and "$19.95 a month, flat rate!" deals which, without "upsell potential" (e.g. upgrading the dialin customers to more lucrative ISDN or co-lo arrangements), are merely a recipe for going broke. My point is simply that, to paraphrase the old "if your brother jumped off a bridge, would you too?" line of mothers everywhere, a lot of ISPs are currently jumping off bridges in pursuit of their competition and if I see half as many ISPs roaming around this time next year, I'll be both surprised and impressed. I'm not saying that x2 is not ultimately the best deal, I'm simply saying that such decisions need to be made carefully and without undue haste. This market is too new for anyone to have a realistic valuation of it, and that's dangerous. Jordan