From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 1 13:49:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D5F16A419 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 13:49:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from raven.bwct.de (raven.bwct.de [85.159.14.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E8913C4A5 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 13:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de ([10.1.1.7]) by raven.bwct.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l81DmJrZ064510; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:48:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [10.1.1.14]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l81DmAPq080252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:48:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l81DmAPt061524; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:48:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id l81Dm9gI061523; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:48:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:48:09 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Dmitry Morozovsky Message-ID: <20070901134809.GF54895@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <20070901074803.GM85633@comp.chem.msu.su> <3842.1188634387@critter.freebsd.dk> <20070901092310.GO85633@comp.chem.msu.su> <20070901093035.GA18069@harmless.hu> <20070901122913.GE54895@cicely12.cicely.de> <20070901165544.H14738@woozle.rinet.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070901165544.H14738@woozle.rinet.ru> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.4-STABLE alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, BAYES_00=-2.599 autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on cicely12.cicely.de Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , ticso@cicely.de, fs@freebsd.org, Yar Tikhiy Subject: Re: New option for newfs(3) to make life with GEOM easier X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 13:49:05 -0000 On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 04:57:54PM +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: > On Sat, 1 Sep 2007, Bernd Walter wrote: > > BW> > > In some scenarios, it can be desirable to newfs first, geom later. > BW> > True, done it many time myself. Since sysinstall doesn't allow you > BW> > to install onto a gmirror array, many install via sysinstall, and gmirror > BW> > the system afterwards, which is exactly this situation. > BW> > BW> Sysinstall easily allows you to not partition the last few sectors. > BW> The newfs option is only usefull if you are mirroring at fs level, > BW> which is note quite common for system disks, where you really need > BW> partitions. > > I concur, as all servers (rather entry-level, yeah; and excluding these that > have large storage) we deploy last 2 years have two SATA disks with mirrored > file systems. What is the big win if you mirror all partitions/filesystems and not the whole disk? -- B.Walter http://www.bwct.de http://www.fizon.de bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de support@fizon.de