Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:43:45 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw <xfb52@dial.pipex.com> To: Nikolas Britton <nikolas.britton@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't seem to boot from 6.0-RELEASE Message-ID: <43FE1071.6080008@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <ef10de9a0602231026i5b95fa23k362cf30e044d9e48@mail.gmail.com> References: <op.s5d5avt8jg5zmp@alexmax.carolina.rr.com> <ef10de9a0602230145q628bfe99y59e02850675519eb@mail.gmail.com> <43FD9A34.7030401@dial.pipex.com> <ef10de9a0602231026i5b95fa23k362cf30e044d9e48@mail.gmail.com>
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Nikolas Britton wrote: >I see, do the Intel EMT-64 chips use the amd64 release too? And what >did he mean by "certain programs being unavalable for amd64", what are >the major ones? > > There seems to be an IA-64 which I guess is Intel. Only buy AMD chips myself, so I'm a bit hazy on that. I'm sure freebsd.org has the answer somewhere :-) Major programs include java, and I think, Linux 32-bit compatibility. You can see a complete list of ports which fail to build at http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/ e.g. the ones not building under 5-STABLE for AMD64 are in http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/amd64-5-failure.html. Of course, some of those packages just fail to build anywhere! But lack of java and nvidia are big stumblers for many who might otherwise try 64-bit on a desktop. For a pure server, given the time, I'd certainly experiment with 64-bit. Unfortunately, all "my" pure servers run Linux - not through choice :-( You described 64-bit chips as bleeding edge, but I really don't think they are any more. Dual cores may be bleeding edge and SLI may be bleeding edge, but bog standard 64-bit processors running a 32-bit OS are dead common and usually seem to work. No doubt there are some chipsets/motherboards that are worse than others, but that's the same for any architecture. Buying anything to run FreeBSD well has always been a matter of checking the hardware lists carefully and backing that up with google. 8 months ago I had no trouble finding an AMD 939 64 bit motherboard that would work well with FreeBSD. --Alex
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