From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Mar 7 8:48:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FE837B401 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:48:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206D643FA3 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:48:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.unixathome.org [192.168.0.99]) by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C3A3D29; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:49:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Langille" To: "Michael W . Lucas" Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:52:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: User and Machine Stats Cc: Nigel Weeks , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3E688802.16508.E7200C@localhost> In-reply-to: <20030307113028.A27163@blackhelicopters.org> References: <3E68515C.21314.11A930@localhost>; from dan@langille.org on Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 07:59:24AM -0500 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 Mar 2003 at 11:30, Michael W . Lucas wrote: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 07:59:24AM -0500, Dan Langille wrote: > > On 7 Mar 2003 at 15:49, Nigel Weeks wrote: > > > > > I'll give the official FreeBSD crew a little time, as I'm in a bad timezone > > > for getting quick responses. > > > > Why wait? Just do it. Official sanction isn't necessary for a good > > idea. I understand the desire for it, but why not just go ahead and > > do it? > > In fact, official sanction is unlikely. I wrote an article about the > response you can expect when you try to do something, and about how to > get your project accepted, so I'm not going to waste bandwidth > repeating it: > > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2002/01/17/Big_Scary_Daemons.html f you have an idea, just do it. Try it out. Get something running, however crude and ugly you may think it is. A working proof-of- concept is worth far more than any long description. Your support will come from your users. Make your ideas widely known, have something to show them, and they'll come. If everyone waited for official sanction, nothing would ever happen. FWIW, none of FreshPorts, FreshSource, and The FreeBSD Diary received any type of "official sanction" before they were started. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message