From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 05:41:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A64F106567B for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 05:41:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52D48FC3D for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 05:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:57834 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1K0VSa-0005Oj-8l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 07:41:29 +0200 Received: (qmail 14533 invoked from network); 26 May 2008 07:41:25 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 26 May 2008 07:41:25 +0200 Received: (qmail 34951 invoked by uid 1001); 26 May 2008 07:41:25 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:41:25 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20080526054125.GA34908@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <483a0e28.yI2rkHoaWjLvkauP%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1K0VSa-0005Oj-8l. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1K0VSa-0005Oj-8l db662825031fe375a7e85847a0b29ba6 Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: non-RAID SATA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 05:41:30 -0000 On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 08:01:42PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of > > perryh@pluto.rain.com > > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:11 PM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: non-RAID SATA > > > > > > I am looking for a cost-effective way to add a SATA drive to an > > existing 7.0 system whose on-board controller is PATA, and am not > > getting very far at all in identifying an inexpensive controller > > which would be expected to work well. (I'd prefer PCI, since the > > USB in this box is probably 1.0 and not capable of sustaining > > desirable data rates.) > > > > SATA is faster than PCI. Most people would replace the motherboard > or use a USB 2.0 card which has a far faster transfer speed than > PCI does as a transition, with the expectation that sooner or > later they are going to replace the system. While it is true that the maximum theoretical transfer speed available from SATA (150MB/s or 300MB/s depending on SATA version) exceeds that of a normal PCI bus (133MB/s for a standard 32bit/33MHz bus), there is currently no single SATA disk available on the market that will swamp the PCI bus. USB 2.0 is however much slower than either of SATA and PCI. USB 2.0 has a maximum theoretical transfer speed of 480Mbit/s ( = 60MB/s) with a practical maximum of maybe 30-40 MB/s - less than half of either PCI or SATA. > > > All mentions of SATA in the hardware guide and FAQ seem to be of > > RAID controllers, or else too generic to guide a choice of add-in > > cards. > > > > Does anyone have any experience with this that they would be > > inclined to share? > > In automotive terms your adding a free-flow exhaust to a restricted > engine - in the trade we call them adding a "fart can" because > they do nothing to help the car go faster since there's restrictions > further up the chain. It is unlikely that a PCI-based SATA card would be a noticable bottleneck in this case unless one were to connect several high-speed disks to the card. > > Go buy an inexpensive USB 2.0 external disk case, then buy your > SATA disk and stick it inside of that, with the idea that eventually > your going to get a faster machine you might be able to use the disk in. USB however would be a quite noticable bottleneck. Bad idea if you want anything resembling speed. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se