From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 24 01:23:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDB216A4DE for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 01:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@bitfreak.org) Received: from mail.twinthornes.com (mail.twinthornes.com [65.75.198.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F5B43D49 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 01:23:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@bitfreak.org) Received: from [10.242.169.24] (c-67-171-135-169.hsd1.or.comcast.net [67.171.135.169]) by mail.twinthornes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0ADB154; Sun, 23 Jul 2006 18:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <44C42100.5090201@bitfreak.org> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 18:23:12 -0700 From: Darren User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Freebsd References: <200607232029.k6NKTQ4T025366@fire.jhs.private> <20060723210819.T17979@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060723210819.T17979@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: What sort of market does FreeBSD provide ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 01:23:14 -0000 User Freebsd wrote: > Who *big* recognizes FreeBSD as a viable > operating system, at least openly? When PHK asked the FreeBSD community to donate USD16,500-33000 so he could spend 3-6 months working regular hours on FreeBSD, Pair Networks (pair.com) donated USD20,000. I don't know if that's "recognition as viable" or not, but businesses generally don't give $20k to anyone without a reasonable expectation of a solid return on investment. > Hell, how many ppl are still running 3.x or 4.x systems, vs the newer > stuff? I have a few systems running the "final" RELENG_4. These are only doing so because they're internal file or mail servers on older hardware. They're stable, problem free and have low exposure with no applicable security flaws. I can't justify depriving a business of critical IT services for the several hours it will take to do the rebuild.