From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 1 16:40:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4DE32CD; Wed, 1 Apr 2015 16:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (aso-006-i443.relay.mailchannels.net [23.91.64.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0767FD; Wed, 1 Apr 2015 16:40:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: duocircle|x-authuser|hippie Received: from smtp4.ore.mailhop.org (ip-10-237-13-110.us-west-2.compute.internal [10.237.13.110]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1CD2E120DEB; Wed, 1 Apr 2015 15:24:50 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: duocircle|x-authuser|hippie Received: from smtp4.ore.mailhop.org (smtp4.ore.mailhop.org [10.21.145.197]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.4.8); Wed, 01 Apr 2015 15:24:50 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: duocircle|x-authuser|hippie X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: duocircle X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1427901890257:2173604502 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1427901890257 Received: from c-73-34-117-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([73.34.117.227] helo=ilsoft.org) by smtp4.ore.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1YdKVb-0006wr-JK; Wed, 01 Apr 2015 15:24:47 +0000 Received: from revolution.hippie.lan (revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t31FOhON061728; Wed, 1 Apr 2015 09:24:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP X-Originating-IP: 73.34.117.227 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@duocircle.com (see https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX19NhSSJQELWLrdV+aqXmRjF Message-ID: <1427901883.82583.72.camel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r280955 - in head/sys: modules/notrandom dev/notrandom From: Ian Lepore To: Julian Elischer Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 09:24:43 -0600 In-Reply-To: <551C0B2A.9060006@freebsd.org> References: <20150401113628.GA16649@dft-labs.eu> <20150401114313.GZ64665@FreeBSD.org> <20150401115204.GB16649@dft-labs.eu> <1427897897.82583.62.camel@freebsd.org> <551C0A92.8070507@freebsd.org> <551C0B2A.9060006@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.10 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AuthUser: hippie Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Mateusz Guzik , src-committers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 16:40:37 -0000 On Wed, 2015-04-01 at 23:13 +0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 4/1/15 11:11 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > > On 4/1/15 10:18 PM, Ian Lepore wrote: > >> On Wed, 2015-04-01 at 13:52 +0200, Mateusz Guzik wrote: > >>> As a side note I'm surprised with the choice of 7. > >>> > >>> I would expect 3, no more, no less. 3 would be the number returned, > >>> and the number readers receive would be 3. > >> 5 would be right out. > > > > there is prior art for 7... I remember seeing it once.. 7, 7, 7, 7, > > 7 ... > > that's the trouble with randomness, you can't really tell.. > > I remember a part of a paper on the topic by Adams S, et al. > > I think it was towards the end of the paper. > > I stand corrected... the number selected in the paper was 9 > Odd, I though Lennon & Ono were the primary proponents of number 9, as detailed in their 1968 work on the subject. -- Ian