From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 14:29:19 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CDF106564A; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:29:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C0C8FC0C; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 514601A9D; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:29:19 -0700 (PDT) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Mark Sommer References: x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.17.12.7; tzolkin = 3 Manik; haab = 0 Chen Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:29:19 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Mark Sommer's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:57:25 -0600") Message-ID: <86occ5k6yo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-java-request@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:29:19 -0000 >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Sommer writes: Mark> That's a pretty idealistic view of the upcoming release of HTML5. Mark> I have yet to see a release of HTML that is compatible across Mark> browsers, i.e. adapted universally by all browsers uniformly. Mark> Java is still a very viable platform, even on the browser. Whenever I see Java firing up on my browser, I cringe. (Flash too.) There are darn few things either of these do that a good modern cross-platform library, like jQueryUI, can't do instead. Except for video playback, which HTML5 fixes as well. And yes, until then, we're stuck with Flash. We needed Java before we had good JavaScript. Now we have good JavaScript. I repeat... Java had its day. Time to move on. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion