From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Mon Dec 4 01:01:48 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59CD1E6F034 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 01:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EC071A70 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 01:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 3144AE6F030; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 01:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EB5E6F02E for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 01:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x233.google.com (mail-it0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E52F071A6E for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 01:01:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x233.google.com with SMTP id d137so2785531itc.2 for ; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 17:01:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=OImH6VXrsTBWAsexmi246zF6okHSNcKGTgPxrJQMl9w=; b=oJV123LL0hbK6yIBave82+jxZ7mS2C3wwoH+WyAvIgo+kKIIdh7M5jvRuWTuxH5nYl 8Rxv+X8k2/S7dLEvfgx7NcQIpupQaoqNkpLAk9/WzfeeWpuNQ5tMXy4Q/PEHUAUY7/SB Mri1xFU50dcQgwFkxy1L+FFLWpcVRqGwB/Ri5gAV7HTyOY9y7FUss7epVyRLQLCHvgZ7 2VTlKwFc7OLNZZXdeCd5UM46T4+d8pHNKpMydyCtaiTkozkioUz6H9YXg5In+sutXG5d eYRZHMhLYux97T6Zzm0dGNOs1jkYkeFnU4bZoNavZB6pie468V5SbdG9cJGjnYaRfc+Q GmNQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=OImH6VXrsTBWAsexmi246zF6okHSNcKGTgPxrJQMl9w=; b=QCYVdd13GYg7cwYzt/GEyV1MIS9WG6evSsc2AamEbTy8GVc7J01Y/iGojhQiu00z9d 9JbYKGLlKnNBTrSN9kT0+ZyQIjEFcIfMieFwIKdD1ww73M1Tj9faFA4dTfNuJ4Ej9Djv BYGIiKAxjNUijd9fe9HxBAq7OoTCmD9i7cDZXjd9J8JKnl8zSVjFy7iUm2yKUv9YHR/4 vPwBXcD0yP9bpxxhhh5kzmBQPLl7cT0k3tljwTi1GK6JST+2sPlmkfQeAY3IfLyJbrC6 ZKNhprFvV1L0ND7w8ExUu9+TsEfc2zLFuMP3ZgrwQ4//0vp+ksvqUtn9/eWIuzAoxMDk 5HBw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mIsGzfxE8ttOb6mbU61EuSPcexdVaB9LMa3ifG0AOj/2Jxtxe+9 lg929VUbCCrp68zgMC0Ourwm1alv1Wx/d6Zr8Htygw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZi37Cq79tpEQl4kXnrwUHJ9gkl4SGMq5X77bem3a9GM4JTBBP1pI52RNfsQvkmt0RuxqcPFihiVXAoJ0Fpy2w= X-Received: by 10.36.131.200 with SMTP id d191mr11327968ite.97.1512349307247; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 17:01:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.79.108.204 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 17:01:46 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] In-Reply-To: <201712040050.vB40o9Zr042851@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> References: <201712040050.vB40o9Zr042851@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:01:46 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Bih9v3NPQYArlKZX-XMqiMWFJd0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Deprecating / Removing floppy drive support To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Adrian Chadd , Cy Schubert , Hans Petter Selasky , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 01:01:48 -0000 On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > I think I can net boot my data recovery/forensics system, which > has floppy and net booted I can run 10/11 or 12 i386 and amd on it. > > So basically I should be able to get us some additional data points > in short order. True. We should add additional sanity / hacks to isa_dma as well. It may be that some folks it works for, and some it fails for due to bugs in contigmalloc that have gone undetected, or at least uncorrected. I have an older DELL system that I may bring up, if there's enough memory in it to run -current. It's the least obnoxious of the old hardware that I have knocking around. But it may be gated by finding working PATA disks and/or that PATA <-> SD adapter I have somewhere... Warner