From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 1 21:14:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6242216A402 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1470E13C48E for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l21LEEqK070254; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:14:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <45E7421E.905@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:14:06 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070221 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Franks References: <539c60b90703010849x33dd4bbbt8f6ca6aa0c8e83a0@mail.gmail.com> <45E7070E.9050506@daleco.biz> <45E70B8C.8010602@daleco.biz> <539c60b90703011250y7ad5b475v936b4d357549d50e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90703011250y7ad5b475v936b4d357549d50e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Users Questions Subject: Re: defrag X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:14:17 -0000 Steve Franks wrote: > Excellent! Never had that one answered. I've gone down the typical > road of being an MS booster ("It doesn't take 10 hours to set up and > configure") to experiencing glee when I find yet another way FBSD > kicks the crap out of MS. Why? Because I've grown up, and learned > that 2 hours time spent *reading* and configuring is way better than 2 > days time spent when the system crashes in the middle of the workweek > - bottom line, BSD is cheaper before, during, and after installation. > Probably by a factor of 10 for me over the last 10 years. As I write > this, I'm on a MS laptop that has degraded to the point where any disk > acess takes 10 seconds before the display updates (but not from the > shell - so not a defrag issue, just a screwed registry or something). > I used to reinstall my entire MS server every 6 months, on average... > > Steve There are some advantages to FBSD, for certain. Your last sentence is a huge example, although I know some Winservers that have been running on the same "install" for quite some time (but some of those have to be rebooted fairly often). A big *BSD argument is uptime - my personal server record is ~450 days, but you do kinda worry because there was probably supposed to be a security fix with a new kernel somewhere during that time period.... Pietro Cerutti wrote: >> groff /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* ~/ffs.ps >> ps2pdf ~/ffs.ps >> acroread ~/ffs.pdf >> >> But there's probably a better way --- I'm certainly "one offing" today. >> > groff /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* > ~/ffs.ps Err, yes; that's today's "one off groff" ... thanks. Never type what you can copy/paste.... B-/ KDK -- Hear about... the guru who refused Novocain while having a tooth pulled because he wanted to transcend dental medication?