From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 5 21:01:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7D8106566B; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 21:01:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanegomi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-f54.google.com (mail-pa0-f54.google.com [209.85.220.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4F38FC08; Fri, 5 Oct 2012 21:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id bi1so2533941pad.13 for ; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:01:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=PPmgV5gclEXkewMAMmgKxVlf8pApAEfEaJFXSBb40h0=; b=vHxkqpZ5ZjRyOZaWd4qbPur7d8HFlB7e75+Yt1TpdWnrmqGvY0x7UOd2jLUHXWAF0K O+fYfcmafzhUHbKeO2S4JRCFITHKaNJ0p/coqhE5nDN0iOtaR9Oan0lEGCbUnNpM7beK quljaC8Gm5agWC2uOOtlsIUmKAJWWlnAqdu4fa8Fk0zWGelyI342UE2JEU91RWhVBkNh qZEHm9HZvdqwQ3BVoWCgTFDl5GVflLm6S9MHfTJtKNCT0wMfBOlDFE+tiuCcAXMobB+K 1IJ4v/7bCSIgfvg58V8JAEiPPnzNULAZq7AWfxZQJLOHM0T1jPeNn4CFNyytxW8W9697 PrWA== Received: by 10.66.88.198 with SMTP id bi6mr24636283pab.23.1349470917448; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fuji-wireless.local (c-24-19-191-56.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [24.19.191.56]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c5sm6548212pay.5.2012.10.05.14.01.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 05 Oct 2012 14:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: <5E8C160D-5B57-4D31-9052-3AE7FEE64313@gid.co.uk> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 14:02:33 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3E03A2A1-A46A-4601-A69F-AB45329F7361@gmail.com> References: <506C385C.3020400@FreeBSD.org> <506DEB4C.5020508@andric.com> <86haq9hq2c.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20121005033244.GL35915@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <86y5jll7kc.fsf@ds4.des.no> <86txu9l4z9.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20121005155441.GL69724@acme.spoerlein.net> <5E8C160D-5B57-4D31-9052-3AE7FEE64313@gid.co.uk> To: Bob Bishop X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: Adrian Chadd , Andriy Gapon , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Konstantin Belousov , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Dimitry Andric Subject: Re: x86 boot code build X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 21:01:58 -0000 On Oct 5, 2012, at 1:41 PM, Bob Bishop wrote: > Hi, >=20 > On 5 Oct 2012, at 21:23, Garrett Cooper wrote: >=20 >> With Atom processors you're pretty much stuck with i386, in part = because amd64 emulation mode still sucks a lot. >=20 > Can't agree with that in general, we've had no problems with the D525 = running amd64 (mainly for the benefit of ZFS). It probably depends = exactly which Atom you are looking at - they differ quite a bit. Ok. The generation I'm running at least (D4xx) seemed to have = issues with amd64 emulation (slow). Also, some/many PCHs/boards don't = support over 4GB with Atom, which is a bit discouraging if you're trying = to go 64-bit. Thanks, -Garrett=