From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 27 15:19:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13826 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:19:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zephyr.cybercom.net (zephyr.cybercom.net [209.21.146.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13716 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:18:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ksmm@threespace.com) Received: from shell1.cybercom.net (ksmm@shell1.cybercom.net [209.21.136.6]) by zephyr.cybercom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA28654 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ksmm@localhost) by shell1.cybercom.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA25646 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:17:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.cybercom.net: ksmm owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:17:46 -0400 (EDT) From: The Classiest Man Alive X-Sender: ksmm@shell1.cybercom.net To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Back on topic... In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980827152357.009063e0@honk.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Netscape is an extreme case in FreeBSD. It uses more memory than anything I've seen, but there's nothing I know of that can replace it (i.e., I'm glad there *is* a Netscape for FreeBSD). 32 MB RAM minimum, 64 MB if possible. For a minimum system running X Windows, I think a fast 486 with a good video adapter would be sufficient. This is how I started running XFree86, and I don't ever recall wanting for more speed at the time. 16 MB RAM would do, but I'd recommend 32 MB. For a non-graphical environement, virtually any 486 is sufficient. Disk I/O might suffer at this point, but most console apps work fine. 16 MB should do the trick. Storage-wise, I can take up 1.75 GB or more with one of my "package happy" installations. When space or time dictate that I do otherwise, I can get by with around 500-600 MB for a good development system with X, or about half that without the comprehensive development tools (a user system). I did once install a working FreeBSD 2.2.x system onto a zip cartridge, but it only had tools enough to administer the system (not much fun to use). Plus the speed left something to be desired. :-) K.S. On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Martin Poulin wrote: : I know the Handbook says at least a 386DX with 8MB of RAM is : the recommended minimum, but let's be a little more realistic. : : What would you consider to be the minimum system to have a : decent installation of FreeBSD running? Also, what do you : think would be a good amount of disk space to set aside for : FreeBSD (I guess that depends on what you plan to install). : : For that matter, what do you consider a "decent installation"? : : I am currently running 2.2.7-release with full sources, X, and : a few ports (Netscape, XFMail, FVWM2, XMame, rxvt...) on a : 486DX4 100 with 16MB RAM and 540MB HD. : : I find that I am running into 2 problems: : : - X runs VERY slowly at times - especially running Netscape and XMame. : (I never realized Pac-Man could be soooo slow). : : - I have run out of disk space. (95% capacity in /usr if I delete : my Netscape cache - otherwise 106% capacity!!) : : So in my case, a 486 with 16 MB ram is way too slow, and I need tons : more disk space. If I wasn't running X, it would be a different story. : : The first time I installed FreeBSD, I installed 2.2.5-release on 250MB. : (The same 486 system dual-booting with win95) : No sources, no X, just a bare-bones install that worked quite nicely. : I even had room to install a few of my favorite apps (pine, lynx etc.) : : So in my opinion, you can definitely run FreeBSD quite well on a small : system, as long as you do a small install. : If you want a kick-ass install, you simply need a bigger system. : : Funny - the reason I got this little system to begin with was to use it : as a firewall for the bigger system that I planned to buy to run Windows. : Now I still want the bigger system, but not for Windows any more! : : m. : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message