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On 02/03/2014 07:56 AM, Christian Brueffer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> for some time now we have had two drivers for NVIDIA NForce/MCP network
> chips, namely nve(4) and nfe(4).
>
> The former came first and is based on a binary blob.  The latter was
> later ported from OpenBSD and is blob-free.
>
> nfe(4) supports all chips nve(4) supports, in addition to all the newer
> hardware.  In essence, nfe(4) has been the de-facto standard driver for
> a long time.  nve(4) has been commented out in GENERIC since 2007.
>
> For this reason I propose deprecating nve(4) in 10-STABLE and removing
> it from HEAD.
>
> Does anyone see a reason not to do this?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Christian (wearing my best asbestos suit)
>


If you're going to be so very polite about it, how do you
expect us to have a 2000 email chain fight examining
every possible implication of your proposal ... :)


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