From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 3 14:34:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B56F6D4 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 14:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.in-addr.com (mail.in-addr.com [IPv6:2a01:4f8:191:61e8::2525:2525]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F375A651 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 14:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gjp by mail.in-addr.com with local (Exim 4.84 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Xa3wI-0004uE-Op; Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:34:34 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 15:34:34 +0100 From: Gary Palmer To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Mirrored SSDs for ZIL/SLOG - safety, flushing, capacitors Message-ID: <20141003143434.GB41347@in-addr.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: gjp@in-addr.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.in-addr.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: FreeBSD Filesystems X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 14:34:37 -0000 On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 05:59:48AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 2 Oct 2014, javocado wrote: > > > I'm setting up a SLOG to improve performance on my ZFS-based fileserver. I > > plan to use 2 mirrored SSD's to create the log device. Before I continue, > > I have some specific questions how to approach which hardware to use. > > > > Primarily, I'm concerned with what damage/corruption may occur when there's > > a power loss. > > Do you have a good UPS? > > > 2. should I only use SSDs with capacitors? does anyone recommend any? I'm > > seeing good things about the Intel s3500 > > I think the Crucial M550 SSDs have additional backup capacitors also. > However, I'm still skeptical about the value of a small SSD power backup > versus a true UPS for the entire system. The point of the supercap is all SSDs (even the ones without proper power protection) have a small amount of DRAM which they use for write optimisation. The cap is just there to let the SSD dump the DRAM to flash if the power dies. Even with a good UPS you should still get SSDs with power protection in case of PSU failures or people knocking out power cords or something. Regards, Gary