From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 10 20:48:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1532516A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:48:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.simplenet.com (mail1.simplenet.com [209.132.1.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0822143D1D for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:48:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tt-list@simplenet.com) Received: from Traver.simplenet.com (209.132.9.116) by mail1.simplenet.com (7.0.016) (authenticated as tt-list@simplenet.com) id 40C831C700001E37; Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:38:45 -0700 Message-Id: <6.0.1.1.0.20040610134107.04accc70@mail1.simplenet.com> X-Sender: tt-list@simplenet.com@mail1.simplenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.1.1 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 13:46:29 -0700 To: Bill Moran From: Tim Traver In-Reply-To: <20040610133850.3de5367a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> References: <20040610103818.148867d2.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <6.0.1.1.0.20040610091022.01eecec0@mail1.simplenet.com> <20040610124237.3b5b6687.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <6.0.1.1.0.20040610095745.04dc23f0@mail1.simplenet.com> <20040610133850.3de5367a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Frontpage and jails and possible alternatives X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:48:38 -0000 Bill, ok, I tested this out for ya, and I couldn't duplicate the issue. FreeBSD 4.8... I put an additional IP on the main interface, and started apache with Listen IP:80 for each IP. The server has mod_frontpage using apache 1.3.29. I even tried have the BindAddress in the conf file as well. Sorry, I don't have the extra time to install 1.3.31 and recompile for ya, but I think there is something else going on there... Where in the conf file is your Listen directive ? What OS ? Is there anything listening on port 80 when you have apache off ? Is your IP an alias to the primary interface ? I really don't think that the frontpage module even has the ability to change what apache binds to... Anyways, thought I would let you know that I couldn't reproduce it... Tim. At 10:38 AM 6/10/2004, Bill Moran wrote: >Tim Traver wrote: > > > Bill, > > > > I use the latest mod_frontpage module with Apache 1.3.31... > > > > I haven't tested whether or not it binds to *:80 or not when I specify > an IP. > > > > How are you specifying the IP in the conf file ? Are you just using Listen > > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:80 ? > >Both of the following: > >Listen xx.xx.xx.xx:80 >BindAddress xx.xx.xx.xx > >I have another server here (used for development) with a fairly vanilla Apache >install, and changing those same two settings causes it to do what I'd expect. > >I can't find any directives in the Frontpage Apache config that might >cause this >... but I suppose it's possible that I'm missing something. > > > At 09:42 AM 6/10/2004, Bill Moran wrote: > > >Tim Traver wrote: > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > > > Not sure what you mean that frontpage caused apache to bind to all > > > > IP's...it shouldn't... > > > > > >I agree. > > > > > > > The frontpage apache module should respect any of the virtual hosts or > > > > virtual IP's that you have set up in apache. > > > > > >It definately should. > > > > > > > The module is just a way for > > > > apache to run the fp.exe wrapper script around the frontpage binary. I > > > > don't know how it would even be able to force apache to bind to > anything... > > > > > >Nor do I. > > > > > > > Are you sure about that ??? > > > > > >Yes. When I configured Apache to only listen on 1 IP address, > sockstat then > > >showed it listening on that address in addition to *:80. The exact same > > >config changes on a machine without fp installed resulted in the expected > > >behaviour. > > > > > >Now, I haven't been idle since I made that first post ... It seems > there are > > >two frontpage ports, apache_fp and mod_frontpage. I've got apache_fp > > >installed. > > > > > >Anyone using mod_frontpage that can say whether it's better or worse? > > > > > > > At 07:38 AM 6/10/2004, Bill Moran wrote: > > > > > > > > >I just learned that if you run Apache+Frontpage, you can't teach > Apache to > > > > >only listen on a single IP address. For some reason, Frontpage causes > > > > >Apache to always bind to all IP addresses. Somehow, this stupidity > > > doesn't > > > > >really surprise me too much. > > > > > > > > > >The reason I wanted to do this is because I have a machine I want to > > > > >set jails up on, so I can run multiple instances of Apache. But I > didn't > > > > >want to mess with the existing Apache installation right now. > > > > > > > > > >Anyway ... in the long run I've got two choices: > > > > >1) Get Apache+Frontpage running in a jail so it will quit fscking up > > > the other > > > > > stuff I'm trying to do on this machine > > > > >2) Find some alternative to frontpage to provide frontpage > services that > > > > > behaves like a proper server. > > > > > > > > > >My questions are (respectively): > > > > >1) Does anyone have Apache+Frontpage successfully running in a > > > jail? I just > > > > > thought I'd ask before I spent (wasted?) a lot of time trying to > > > make it > > > > > work. > > > > >2) Can anyone suggest an alternative to Apache+Frontpage? I prefer > > > scp myself > > > > > (and there are even spiffy GUI scp clients for Windows) but many > > > of these > > > > > clients _insist_ on using Frontpage, so I _must_ continue to > cater to > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > >TIA for any answers. > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > >Bill Moran > > > > >Potential Technologies > > > > >http://www.potentialtech.com > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > > SimpleNet's Back ! > > > > http://www.simplenet.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Bill Moran > > >Potential Technologies > > >http://www.potentialtech.com > > >_______________________________________________ > > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >-- >Bill Moran >Potential Technologies >http://www.potentialtech.com >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"